False. We clearly defined those terms earlier in this thread.
Examples of dogmatic sedevacantists: Dimond brothers, Bishop Sanborn
Examples of moderate sedevacantists (the opinionists, as Bishop Sanborn calls them): SSPV
So, for instance, the Dimonds claim that anyone who believes that Bergoglio is the pope is by that very fact a heretic. No allowance made for disagreements regarding the Cajetan vs. Bellarmine positions, or more of a sedeprivationist angle. Bishop Sanborn is a bit more moderate, but still a dogmatic sedevacantist, since he would hold that people could be excused from formal heresy due to confusion, etc. But he still holds that the conclusion that the See is vacant is dogmatically certain.
Yes, let's take a look at the definition
you and Xavier came up with:
Dogmatic Sedevacantism: SVism is dogma. If you don't believe it, you are in heresy!Now, if this is your definition, then that would mean that a person would be called a dogmatic sedevacantist and guilty of your dogmatic sedevacantism if he/she believed that all non-sedes were heretics.
And yet you have now accused me of being/strongly implied that I am a dogmatic sedevacantist despite the fact that I do not believe nor ever declared any such thing. So far, the fact that I will not assist at a mass una cuм the heretic Bergoglio and the fact that I believe that the Novus Ordo church is a sect (ie. not the Catholic Church) is enough for you to accuse me of "DS".
Just because I choose not to assist at an una cuм mass doesn't mean I believe that those who do are heretics/schismatics. Just because I believe that the Novus Ordo church is a non-Catholic sect doesn't mean that I believe that all those who are still stuck in its pews (including those poor nuns) are necessarily heretics/schismatics.
This is what I mean by the fact that the definition of "DS" changes to fit what the accuser believes is "going too far". I call BS that you and Xavier (and many others on this forum) believe a person is a DS only if he believes all non-sedes are heretics.
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