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Sedevacantists:if you were convinced sede-ism was wrong, what would you do next?

Become an R&R Traditionalist
12 (35.3%)
Become an Indult Traditionalist
6 (17.6%)
Become an NO Cath Conservative
9 (26.5%)
Become a very liberal Catholic
1 (2.9%)
Cease to practice Catholicism
6 (17.6%)

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Offline TKGS

Re: Sedevacantists:if you were convinced sede-ism was wrong, what would you do next?
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2020, 01:34:47 PM »
Quote from: Mysterium Fidei on July 07, 2020, 10:02:30 AM
In that case, I would probably just go back to being a Protestant because it's so much easier; no Sunday obligation, no confession, no mandatory holy days. Maybe I'd be a Lutheran. Heck maybe I'd be a Buddhist. I mean if salvation can be obtained in any religion or in no religion at all, why not?
It is absolutely and unambiguously clear that the Conciliar sect teaches that salvation can be obtained through any religion and even no religion.  So, if Bergoglio is the pope, one can legitimately ditch all religion, lead an entirely secular life, just be a "good person", be environmentally conscientious, and one is pretty much assured heaven.
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Offline Argentino

Re: Sedevacantists:if you were convinced sede-ism was wrong, what would you do next?
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2020, 01:49:18 PM »
Fr. Le Floch, superior of the French Seminary in Rome, announced in 1926:
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The heresy which is now being born will become the most dangerous of all; the exaggeration of the respect due to the pope and the illegitimate extension of his infallibility.


Don't you know that if the R&R downplays infallibility, then they will then perceive the truth to be an exaggeration of infallibility?
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Offline Meg

Re: Sedevacantists:if you were convinced sede-ism was wrong, what would you do next?
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2020, 01:49:53 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on July 07, 2020, 12:26:40 PM
"You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

Carry on!

It's probably because they don't believe that the water is really water. They are suspicious by nature. Surely the water is really not what it appears to be (in their view).
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Sedevacantists:if you were convinced sede-ism was wrong, what would you do next?
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2020, 01:59:02 PM »
Oh goodie.  Another insincere, anti-sedevacantist thread initiated by XavierSem.    
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Offline forlorn

Re: Sedevacantists:if you were convinced sede-ism was wrong, what would you do next?
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2020, 02:17:24 PM »
I will never understand how someone can be R&R and certain Francis is the pope. It doesn't make sense. Accusing sedevacantists of mixing infallibility with indefectibility is just dodging the issue with the latter by attacking the strawman of the former. Fact of the matter is, if Vatican 2 is a legitimate Church council and Francis is a legitimate pope, then the Church has been taken over by non-Catholics and has promulgated teachings and rites which are harmful to faith - by definition, a defection.

Inb4 "Paul VI actually promulgated the Novus Ordo for the Conciliar Church, not the Catholic Church, even though he clearly said otherwise". You could dismiss any action a pope has ever made under that ridiculous logic. "The Council of Nicaea was actually a council of the fake Conciliar Church, not the Catholic Church" etc. Ridiculous stuff. 
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