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Sedevacantists:if you were convinced sede-ism was wrong, what would you do next?

Become an R&R Traditionalist
12 (35.3%)
Become an Indult Traditionalist
6 (17.6%)
Become an NO Cath Conservative
9 (26.5%)
Become a very liberal Catholic
1 (2.9%)
Cease to practice Catholicism
6 (17.6%)

Total Members Voted: 28

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Ladislaus: Peace to you.  I'm dropping out of this and saving 50 hours.  You get the last word.

Offline Ladislaus

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Archbishop Lefebvre here concedes the major, that it is not possible that a Pope could preside over this magnitude of systematic destruction in the Church because he is protected by the Holy Spirit.  He then speculates about possible "solutions" to this very real problem (a problem which R&R pretend doesn't exist), among them that the Pope is drugged/insane/blackmailed.  He concedes that "it's possible" but makes a case against it.  He also speculates that it could be that the man was excommunicated before being elected and therefore would not be a legitimate Pope.  He does not dismiss this possibility at all.  So R&R try to pretend that +Lefebvre was the great champion of R&R and great enemy of sedevacantism, but that's just a downright lie.



+Lefebvre was no R&R and +Lefebvre was no sedeplenist.  He publicly entertained open doubts about the legitimacy of the V2 popes.


Offline Ladislaus

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From the above recording of Archbishop Lefebvre's speech ...

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ultimately I agree with you; it's not possible that the Pope, who is protected by the Holy Ghost, could do things like this.  There we agree; it's not possible, it doesn't fit, this destruction of the Church ...

Offline Ladislaus

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Ladislaus: Peace to you.  I'm dropping out of this and saving 50 hours.  You get the last word.

Take care, Sean. I'll leave the last word on this topic to Archbishop Lefebvre (in the previous post).

Offline Quo vadis Domine

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You guys are utterly hopeless.  You are prepared to cast aspersions on and sully the reputation of Holy Mother Church to save the likes of Bergoglio.  Shame on you.  You basically claim that Holy Mother Church has become a whore.
Ahh, and this, unfortunately, is what it amounts to. They would rather destroy the fundamental tenets of the papacy and concede that the Church can officially teach and promote error, just so they can say that a degenerate communist heretic is the pope? I don’t get it! Why? Cognitive dissonance?