And your distinction is equally "made up". And you keep harping on infallibility and completely ignoring the problem for indefectibility.
There was never a "pastoral council" before V2. Ergo, V2 is a novelty, regardless of who was in attendance. As New Advent said, the ecuмenical nature of a council is not dependent upon the cardinals/bishops present but
upon the pope being involved, in a dogmatic, infallible way. .
Ergo, an ecuмenical council does not exist when "the pope with all the Cardinals/Bishops are present" (as at V2) but ONLY when the council issues dogmatic, infallible decrees. Thus, V2 is not ecuмenical....per New Advent.
I honestly have no idea what kind of HOLY Catholic Church you people believe in, that you can attribute grave error and destruction of souls to the Catholic Magisterium. This borders on blasphemy. Archbishop Lefebvre himself admitted the principle that this is not possible due to the protection of the Church and of the Papacy by the Holy Ghost. He simply didn't know what the answer was. Archbishop Lefebvre NEVER promoted this perverse R&R that we have today which attributes these horrors to the Catholic Magisterium.
+Vigano explained it quit clearly. If you mix what he said with the above, it makes sense. 1) V2 was doctrinal so it was not ecuмenical. 2) Ecuмenical does not refer to "who was present at the council" but to what extent doctrine "is made present (i.e. binding) to all catholics". If doctrine is not involved in a definitive/binding way, then such teaching is not ecuмenical. 3) V2 was a novel/pastoral council which did not doctrinally/bindingly/definitively nor authoritatively command ANY catholic to follow error.
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V2 was a pastoral trick; a conciliar ruse; a diabolical deception, which is extremely theologically explainable, except to those who, because of emotion, fail to use their reason to see the facts.
You also all arguably fall under Trent's anathema against those who claim that the Rites used by the Church can be defective.
The V2 rites of the mass/sacraments are optional and are not protected by Trent's anathema's. I can't believe that you would even think they are.