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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Änσnymσus on July 27, 2021, 06:57:54 PM
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
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I'm well established as not sede.
This post is ridiculous and the username should be exposed imo
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Delete this awful, awful take. The prideful one is YOU, OP.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
Somebody has a case of The Mondays
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Delete this awful, awful take. The prideful one is YOU, OP.
Post was mine.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
Somebody has a case of The Mondays.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
Recant.
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They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
Thanks for this confirmation, confirming that you've got no arguments against sedevacantism. All you've obviously got is bad will.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
I agree 100%.
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. . . I get tired of sede arguments. Perhaps I have heard them for too long. My sede friend is currently trying to get me and my other friend to stop going to the SSPX chapel because in his mind the priest is a heretic.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
Clearly, this is Michael Voris now transferring his drama queen bile from the SSPX to sedes. Sad!
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I agree 100%.
You believe that we "eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement"?
The only person with the problem here is the OP and their pride.
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I agree 100%.
And you sir are, quite possibly, controlled opposition.
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And you sir are, quite possibly, controlled opposition.
Siscoe or Salza. I'm not buying he's any sort of "priest".
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Siscoe or Salza. I'm not buying he's any sort of "priest".
Wouldn’t shock me in the least.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
But...but...your pope says everyone is saved, I guess, as a “sede”, I’m all set.... :facepalm:
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
Sean, that you?
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You paint all sedevacantists with the broad brush of dogmatic sedevacantism. Matthew typically bans those who cross that line.
You are a massive hypocrite in doing precisely what you accuse the sedevacantists of in your post. It’s embarrassing for you that you don’t see the irony.
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Siscoe or Salza. I'm not buying he's any sort of "priest".
Agreed. I asked him once and he denied it. But I am inclined to think he was lying.
I think it’s the one who reverted back to the Conciliar Church since he mentions that during the past year he’s come to realize there’s no error in Vatican II and nothing wrong with the NOM. That timing lines up with the reversion.
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"We will put the proud sedes to flight!"
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But...but...your pope says everyone is saved, I guess, as a “sede”, I’m all set.... :facepalm:
Again, how is it that one can cling to this man as Pope without looking at just who he is aligned with? He believes that Protestants, Orthodox, Hindus, Mohammedans, Jews and atheists can all be saved in their own religions. But only the "trads" are outside of the "unity" of the "church". Set all the sede vs R&R arguments aside and just look at it for what it is: a great apostasy.
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I looked it up .. that was Salza who went back to the Conciliar Church. My money’s on RomanTheo being Salza ... fancies himself a Roman theologian.
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I looked it up .. that was Salza who went back to the Conciliar Church. My money’s on RomanTheo being Salza ... fancies himself a Roman theologian.
Was it Salza who was the former 32nd degree mason?
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a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop
Please, substantiate your unprecedented allegation, or recant your calumny at the very least! I am willing to entertain the idea that your disdain for sedevacantism (Catholicism) may be the result of insufficient study or a lack of efficacious grace, since I myself have erred more than most if not all on this forum... but the statement quoted above! An absolutely sickening accusation that is mortally sinful to make without proof. Please illumine us with your secret knowledge of the crimes of sedevacantist bishops, or do yourself a favor and find a valid priest to hear your confession .
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Please, substantiate your unprecedented allegation, or recant your calumny at the very least! I am willing to entertain the idea that your disdain for sedevacantism (Catholicism) may be the result of insufficient study or a lack of efficacious grace, since I myself have erred more than most if not all on this forum... but the statement quoted above! An absolutely sickening accusation that is mortally sinful to make without proof. Please illumine us with your secret knowledge of the crimes of sedevacantist bishops, or do yourself a favor and find a valid priest to hear your confession .
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Was it Salza who was the former 32nd degree mason?
Yes, he was. He's had several conferences discussing his time as one and what they believe.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
What happened that pushed you over-the-edge?
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I have been a sede for 43 years, since my conversion. I was one before the term existed. And in all those years, the only hate and contempt I have ever encountered was from bogus ordo adherents/conciliarists. They love Protestants, Jews, pagans, Muslims...ANYBODY but Catholics who adhere to true Catholicism and hold that the sede has been vacante since 1958.
What did Our Lord say about knowing people by their fruits?
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I have been a sede for 43 years, since my conversion. I was one before the term existed. And in all those years, the only hate and contempt I have ever encountered was from bogus ordo adherents/conciliarists. They love Protestants, Jews, pagans, Muslims...ANYBODY but Catholics who adhere to true Catholicism and hold that the sede has been vacante since 1958.
What did Our Lord say about knowing people by their fruits?
Too true about devotees of the Bogus Disordo religion.
Sede for 43 years? Tell us your story please!
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I became interested in the Faith via my Italian grandmother who became a stay at homer after they changed the Mass in 1969. I wasn't raised Catholic.
As a young 14 yr old, through some oddball means (The Exorcist, George Carlin's Class Clown recording, and my grandmother's memories of the true Mass plus questions about the red fishes on her calendar, lol), I began researching the Catholic Faith. At 18 I approached the nearest NO parish....knowing nothing much of the changes in the Church, and was schooled from the Baltimore Catechism and Douay Bible by a very trad priest who hated the changes but stayed out of obedience. After my Baptism I discovered ORCM Masses being held monthly at the local airport motel. I began attending and the rest is history.
Btw I must agree with the poster who said in the 70s you were either trad or modernist. We were few then and had to stick together. The ORCM (somewhat sede) got along with SSPX and Abp Lefebvre was our only real bishop that was accessible for confirmations. He did confirmations for any trads, incl. mine.
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And you sir are, quite possibly, controlled opposition.
Or maybe the OP pretending there are two like him.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
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:jester:
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Um, sir, this is a Wendy's drive-thru (https://www.wordorigins.org/big-list-entries/this-is-a-wendys).
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EDIT: correction
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I agree 100%.
I've never understood how so many Novus Ordo Catholics (not necessarily saying you) have a more positive view of Protestants than of sedes.
Boggles my mind
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
Be gone, you troll! :incense:
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I've never understood how so many Novus Ordo Catholics (not necessarily saying you) have a more positive view of Protestants than of sedes.
Boggles my mind
Because Novus Ordo “Catholics” are also Prots.
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I looked it up .. that was Salza who went back to the Conciliar Church. My money’s on RomanTheo being Salza ... fancies himself a Roman theologian.
I didn't realize he returned to the Novus Ordo sect. Do you have a link? Of course, I believe he never really left it.
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This tread proves how emotional we are at times! Relax whoever you are and pray your rosary.
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Set all the sede vs R&R arguments aside and just look at it for what it is: a great apostasy.
THIS.
And that is why people should stop arguing about theology and whose clerical souls might not be saved and focus on what probably is a fairly imminent Second Coming which may leave us little time to clean our spiritual houses.
I agree with DL: This is The Great Apostasy which has been developing and which Our Lady predicted.
There is no divine logic to prioritizing the state of the Church over the state of our souls because it is doubtful that laypeople will be examined on the former at our Particular Judgments.
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This forum is overrun by sedes. They can't help but proclaim their uberworthiness and the righteousness of their cause. They think they are the only true Catholics in the world other than some unknowing heretics. They have all the pride of lucifer. And soon enough they will find themselves in hell because even though they may have believed in outside the Church there is no salvation, they placed themselves outside of the Church, foolish enough to believe their chapel run by a sodomitical child-raping Thuc line bishop was actually the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They believe they are the only ones who truly love the papacy, but they eat the Pope every day and defile themselves with their excrement.
Well yes, the forum is overrun by sedes. They have extreme pride to be sure, and they cannot help but try to take over and force everyone to their view. That's just how they operate. It's not going to change. You'll have to live with it. The sedes are determined to take over the Resistance, and they will likely succeed. But if the Resistance allows this to happen, then they were not worthy of our support in the first place.
Resistance to the sedes is futile. They will win; have no doubt about that.
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Well yes, the forum is overrun by sedes. They have extreme pride to be sure, and they cannot help but try to take over and force everyone to their view.
I didn't know you had the gift to discern souls. How exactly are we forcing anyone to our view? By arguing against contradictory R&R theology?
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Well yes, the forum is overrun by sedes. They have extreme pride to be sure, and they cannot help but try to take over and force everyone to their view. That's just how they operate. It's not going to change. You'll have to live with it. The sedes are determined to take over the Resistance, and they will likely succeed. But if the Resistance allows this to happen, then they were not worthy of our support in the first place.
Resistance to the sedes is futile. They will win; have no doubt about that.
Sounds as if you wrote the OP, my observation only! First of all, how is the sede forcing anyone to accept their views? The only way I see it happening are through the grace of God some are seeing how that is the only logical explanation. Even the Anti-popes in the past were at least Catholic.
In other words, you must believe that Francis is Catholic when it is so very obvious that he is not
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If you think about it a sede is similar with R&R, they recognize the Papacy and resist the Modernists running it!
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I didn't know you had the gift to discern souls. How exactly are we forcing anyone to our view? By arguing against contradictory R&R theology?
By assuming that you have the only correct view.
And you don't contradict +ABL's views. You haven't actually managed to do that. But you think yourself superior anyway. As sedes usually do.
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Sounds as if you wrote the OP, my observation only! First of all, how is the sede forcing anyone to accept their views? The only way I see it happening are through the grace of God some are seeing how that is the only logical explanation. Even the Anti-popes in the past were at least Catholic.
In other words, you must believe that Francis is Catholic when it is so very obvious that he is not
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If you think about it a sede is similar with R&R, they recognize the Papacy and resist the Modernists running it!
Sedes are just plain nuts, and they want everyone else to be just as nuts as them. Though of course they (you) believe that no one should be allowed to believe anything else except sedeism.
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By assuming that you have the only correct view.
And you don't contradict +ABL's views. You haven't actually managed to do that. But you think yourself superior anyway. As sedes usually do.
That is a force? Perhaps because you know it to be true and you believe it to be true.
Think about the Will of God, not your will.
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That is a force? Perhaps because you know it to be true and you believe it to be true.
Think about the Will of God, not your will.
See....that's just it. You believe that Sedeism is God's will.
Can you think outside of the sede box for even a moment? I think not.
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Sedes are just plain nuts, and they want everyone else to be just as nuts as them. Though of course they (you) believe that no one should be allowed to believe anything else except sedeism.
The more you post I see your fingerprints on the OP.
Yes, we are crazy for the Truth, because the truth will set you free!
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See....that's just it. You believe that Sedeism is God's will.
Can you think outside of the sede box for even a moment? I think not.
Sedeism that it happened is not the Will of God, but He allowed it to happen, so now face it, the Chair of Peter is empty of a True Pope. Pure and Simple!
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The more you post I see your fingerprints on the OP.
Yes, we are crazy for the Truth, because the truth will set you free!
I did not write the OP. But it's okay if nutty sedes think it was me. I know that you cannot help it.
Sedeism is like a disease, just like Modernism is.
Bp. Faure once said that the Resistance is attacked on two sides - on the left are those who are the Ralliers who want a deal with Rome, and on the right - those who attack the
Resistance are the Sedevacantists. And they are allowed to fully attack here. Why is that? This forum obviously does not support the Resistance, except in name only. And even then....
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I did not write the OP. But it's okay if nutty sedes think it was me. I know that you cannot help it.
You mean there are two you? Ouch!
Mary keep you, off to Mass now, visit Cathinfo later!
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Sedes are just plain nuts, and they want everyone else to be just as nuts as them. Though of course they (you) believe that no one should be allowed to believe anything else except sedeism.
Weird. Anecdotal but I don't see anyone nuts at my chapel. You seem to be getting your impressions from a very narrow group or persons. Maybe you need to get offline and go to a chapel. The "Just log off" meme applies here, especially if you are just hatewatching and hatereading Sede content.
I didn't know you had the gift to discern souls. How exactly are we forcing anyone to our view? By arguing against contradictory R&R theology?
Meg, projecting your beliefs onto us isn't going to help your case, now I'm wondering if you think you could identify a Sedevacantist out of a lineup or crowd. Your behavior is strange, DL is right here: Our view is internally coherent but if you look on Twitter, here or elsewhere you see vehement sewage spewed at our characters for doing nothing else than trying to hold to the faith. It's not coming from Protestants, Muslims or whatever either, it's always RnRs and NOs.
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By assuming that you have the only correct view.
And you don't contradict +ABL's views. You haven't actually managed to do that. But you think yourself superior anyway. As sedes usually do.
Ultimately, with an issue like this, there will likely be only one correct view. You assume you have the only correct view so that makes you just as "bad" as us.
The problem with R&R is they have to make themselves the pope. If the "pope" teachings something, they believe they have the authority to determine if it's true or not. That is now how the church works.
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Sedes are just plain nuts….
What’s actually nuts is refusing to see the stark reality spitting in our faces day after day. One cannot be the head of a body of which he is not a member. And if there’s anyone who manifestly hates the Catholic Church with all the white hot hatred of a thousand burning suns, it’s Jorge Bergoglio. Sedes simply acknowledge reality. Nothing nuts about that; rather, quite sane.
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The problem with R&R is they have to make themselves the pope. If the "pope" teachings something, they believe they have the authority to determine if it's true or not. That is now how the church works.
It's really not as complicated as all that.
The Highest Principle in the Church is "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man." (Fr. Hesse)
R&R, adhering to this principle, leave it at that.
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Sedeism is like a disease, just like Modernism is....
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So, believing there is, in fact, a "sede" is a disease? And Modernism is a disease, not the synthesis of all heresies?
I am amused that the most ornery, cantankerous, pseudo-intellectual broad in the joint is casting aspersions and saying those unfortunate enough to disagree with her arguably utterly-Gallican take on things are nuts! Classic! :laugh1:
Traddieland may regularly and spectacularly fail to impress, but it is a never-ending source of oft-twisted entertainment.
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What’s actually nuts is refusing to see the stark reality spitting in our faces day after day. One cannot be the head of a body of which he is not a member. And if there’s anyone who manifestly hates the Catholic Church with all the white hot hatred of a thousand burning suns, it’s Jorge Bergoglio. Sedes simply acknowledge reality. Nothing nuts about that; rather, quite sane.
Reality actually is that if the Church teaches that the pope has all the attributes that sedes believe he has, which She doesn't, but if She does, then the sedes [and all trads] are altogether wrong and the NOers all got it correct.
Instead of realizing that many of the teachings sedes rely on to embrace the sede belief are false, sedes decide the pope is false. It really is as basic as that.
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Reality actually is that if the Church teaches that the pope has all the attributes that sedes believe he has, which She doesn't, but if She does, then the sedes [and all trads] are altogether wrong and the NOers all got it correct.
Instead of realizing that many of the teachings sedes rely on to embrace the sede belief are false, sedes decide the pope is false. It really is as basic as that.
It’s really as basic as this:
If the Novus Ordo organization, now headed by Francis, is the actual Catholic Church, then the Church has defected. But we’ve been divinely assured that the Church cannot defect. Hence the Novus Ordo organization cannot possibly be the actual Catholic Church.
There’s nothing nuts or hateful about logic. It’s simply about reality; in this case, a most uncomfortable aspect of reality. But comfort is not a criterion of truth.
More and more R&R and Resistance people are embracing sede simply because of the inexorable logic of the situation, an epic con perpetrated anew and intensified with each passing day by Bergoglio and his fellow wolves masquerading as shepherds. It’s no accident that we were so strongly divinely warned against wolves masquerading as shepherds.
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It’s really as basic as this:
If the Novus Ordo organization, now headed by Francis, is the actual Catholic Church, then the Church has defected. But we’ve been divinely assured that the Church cannot defect. Hence the Novus Ordo organization cannot possibly be the actual Catholic Church.
Whatever it's called, it's not the Catholic Church.
More and more R&R and Resistance people are embracing sede simply because of the inexorable logic of the situation, an epic con perpetrated anew and intensified with each passing day by Bergoglio and his fellow wolves masquerading as shepherds. It’s no accident that we were so strongly divinely warned against wolves masquerading as shepherds.
Very true, were were warned to beware of them, that's for sure. But the R&R are not going sede on account of logic, if that were the case they'd likely go NO or leave all religion. I say that because if, as sedes believe, that it is dogma that the pope is always infallibly safe to follow, then (Catholic) logic dictates only one thing, namely, that we all go the way of the NO.
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I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.
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I would be worried about you if you did.