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Offline Pessimist

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Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
« on: October 23, 2008, 05:27:36 AM »
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    • Only 101 heresies? This must be the first chapter or something.
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    Offline Adesto

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 07:23:40 AM »
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    • Shouldn't this be in the Crisis the Church section?

    It's in the rules, I think. Could be wrong, but I don't think discussion of sedevacantism is encouraged all across the forum, just in that section.
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    Offline roscoe

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 12:21:44 PM »
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    • There is no such thing as a 'sede vacantist'.
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    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

    Offline sedetrad

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 02:46:11 PM »
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    • Do I think that any of the people that physically sat on the throne of Peter after Pope Pius 12 are legitament popes? The short of it is no!
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    Offline Pessimist

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 02:51:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe
    There is no such thing as a 'sede vacantist'.


    Technically that's true.
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    Offline marasmius

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 07:41:55 PM »
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    • The list of 101 Heresies of John Paul II is not reliable.

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    32. Heretics are not our enemies, but our brothers.  
    UUS:42, 05/25/1995 Heretics are our enemies.  
    St. Clement I, EIC:42,46


    But there is no such statement in the First Epistle of St Clement to the Corinthians, either in Ch 42 or 46.

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    Offline Dawn

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 08:59:58 PM »
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    • True enough. I am trying to be Catholic. I am sorry that the recent Popes do not try for the same thing.
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    Offline Dawn

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 09:01:04 PM »
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    • DUH, I mean pretenders, because they are not Catholic and therefore cannot be Pope.
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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 03:38:58 PM »
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    • I don't know if the "101 Heresies" list was created by the Diamonds or Patrick Pollack, but it's terribly put together.

    It is a shame Mr. Lane's website is down, however it is still cached:

    Heresies of Vatican II


    A good introduction to Sede Vacante:

    Who Are The Sedevacantists?


    Docuмentation of Vatican II Ecclesiology, if you don't mind a long read :

    Communion: Ratzingers's Ecuмenical One-World Church


    A shorter read:

    Ratzinger's Dominus Jesus: A Critical Analysis
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    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

    Offline trad123

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    « Reply #9 on: October 28, 2008, 03:47:27 PM »
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    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #10 on: October 28, 2008, 05:26:00 PM »
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    • I thought that "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" simply said that the Catholic Church is the only ark of salvation - not that all non-Catholics are damned. Although Pope John Paul the Great was trying to promote understanding and love, I do agree that his methods were..... unorthodox and I do not believe them to be the best. Infidels and heretics are still the beloved children of God though right? Just to throw it out there, I'm FSSP not sede or SSPX.
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    "Not to oppose error is to approve it; and not to defend truth is to suppress it; and indeed to neglect
    to confound evil men, when we can do it, is no less a sin than to encourage them."
    -Pope St. Felix III

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #11 on: October 28, 2008, 06:13:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: requiemaeturnum
    Pope John Paul the Great


     :roll-laugh1:

    Surely you're not serious.
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    Offline trent13

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #12 on: October 28, 2008, 08:37:10 PM »
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    • Wow, that gave me a nice laugh...
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    Offline requiemaeturnum

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    « Reply #13 on: October 28, 2008, 08:53:50 PM »
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    • Yes.......... very funny.


    I am serious though.
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    "Not to oppose error is to approve it; and not to defend truth is to suppress it; and indeed to neglect
    to confound evil men, when we can do it, is no less a sin than to encourage them."
    -Pope St. Felix III

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    Sedevacantist...how many of you are such?
    « Reply #14 on: October 28, 2008, 11:25:13 PM »
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    • That Great what? The Great Apostate? The Great Deceiver?
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