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Offline poenitens

Sedevacantism in Eastern Catholic Churches
« on: July 08, 2023, 10:02:34 PM »
I'm talking about sui juris churches in communion with the Holy See:

Eastern Catholic Churches - Wikipedia

To my knowledge there is one sedevacantist priest (Vasily?) that celebrates the divine liturgy in some eastern rite and that was ordained by Daniel Dolan, but for that same reason he does not count. I'm talking about Eastern Catholic clerics that semi-independently came to the conclusion that the See of St. Peter is vacant.

Are there any? It does not seem so. Don't they see the same issues with the papacies of John XXIII and his successors?
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Offline ElwinRansom1970

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Re: Sedevacantism in Eastern Catholic Churches
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2023, 06:22:24 AM »
The East is vastly different from the West.

The rôle of the papacy is perceived differently by Eastern Catholics, especially those churches of byzantine ritual. They confess communion with Rome but do not hold themselves to be "under" Rome.

If Rome becomes objectionable to them, the reaction is not to find an invalidating fault in the person claiming papal office, as does sedevacantism. The general reaction to what would be a perceived objectionable papacy will be a return to Orthodoxy. Case in point, the criminal behaviour of 19th-century U.S. Roman Catholic bishops, especially Archbishop John Ireland if St. Paul, and the failure of Rome to rectify the matter--in fact, only worsen the situation--led tens-of-thousands of Eastern Catholics in the USA back to Orthodoxy in the period 1880 to 1930.
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Sedevacantism in Eastern Catholic Churches
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2023, 08:06:58 AM »
Quote from: ElwinRansom1970 on July 09, 2023, 06:22:24 AM
The rôle of the papacy is perceived differently by Eastern Catholics, especially those churches of byzantine ritual. They confess communion with Rome but do not hold themselves to be "under" Rome.
Isn't this some kind of obstruction to their salvation?
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Offline poenitens

Re: Sedevacantism in Eastern Catholic Churches
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2023, 08:28:45 AM »
Quote from: AnthonyPadua on July 09, 2023, 08:06:58 AM
Isn't this some kind of obstruction to their salvation?
I was thinking the same thing:
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[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff - Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam[/color]

Emphasis mine. Doesn't say "in communion with".
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Sedevacantism in Eastern Catholic Churches
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2023, 11:16:44 AM »
There was the one group who elected +Vigano Pope.
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