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I'll second that! :ready-to-eat: :cheers:
You really shouldn’t make comments off of assumptions. I’ve been interested in attending an Eastern rite liturgy for weeks and wrote to Bishop Zendejas about it and received a certain caution from him regarding if their rites have been changed or not (he specifically warned of the Maronite rite). Upon investigating, I was able to trace the Bishop who ordained the visiting mission priest back to Cardinal Slipyj and was even able to watch the ordination videos leaving me no positive doubts as to the validity of their orders or Liturgy. Interestingly, what led to all of this was the discovery of the Novus Ordo ordination of a visiting SSPX priest, hence my communication with the Bishop. It just happens to be this weekend that I decided because the Liturgy is offered only once a month in this diocese. So, it’s not nice to make accusations of interior motives based on drawing conclusions from brief comments and assumptions. There’s an old saying about assumptions that could probably apply to this case. Also, the official website of the UGCC seems to be Traditional and in no way politically correct. I would say that their website has more anti-Modernism in it than the current SSPX website and Traditionalists still attend their Masses. So I have no scruples.
I’m gonna go this Sunday to the UGCC Liturgy but if I understand from posters here there is a big chance it will be in English? That’s gonn be hard. I only ever attended in Latin and rarely ever even pray the Rosary in English unless is before Mass. Also, I think the priest is married and has three kids.
Declaration of excommunication on pseudo Pope FrancisFrancis Bergoglio, a Jesuit, has been admonished, warned several times to distance himself from heresies. However, he obstinately rejects any repentance. He continues to cause extreme offence not only to the believers of the Roman Catholic Church but also to all Christians and unbelievers. By abusing the supreme church authority through heresies, he intensely promotes the self-destruction of the Church, in matters of both faith and morals.It concerns the following heresies: Francis Bergoglio1) denied the universally valid moral norms in the exhortation Amoris Laetitia.2) did not distance himself from heresies of syncretism with paganism which place the redemptive death of Christ on the same level as the sacrifice to pagan gods, de facto demons. He thus destroys true mission.3) promotes a so-called dynamic approach to the deposit of faith, whereby he makes heresies equal with the apostles’ doctrine.4) neither identified nor condemned Vatican II heresies promoting syncretism with paganism and declaring Allah to be the same God as Yahweh (LG 16, Nostra Aetate declaration).5) participates in crimes against humanity of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr (NWO).6) works towards dechristianization of Europe by intensively promoting Islamization.7) is silent on the stealing of children by the juvenile justice system.8 ) approves and promotes ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism and other gender deviations, which is contrary to the teaching of the Scriptures and Tradition.For these heresies, Francis Bergoglio excluded himself from the Catholic Church. Therefore, the Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate, by authority of the apostolic and prophetic office, in the name of the Triune God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, declares Francis Bergoglio to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Unless the person concerned shows repentance at least in the hour of death, he will be eternally condemned.Every Catholic who is in unity with him in heresy is likewise excommunicated from the Catholic Church.Therefore, let the priests and bishops no longer mention the name of this excommunicated apostate Francis in the Divine Liturgy.+ ElijahPatriarch of the Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate14 February 2018
I am confused. Is the website you are referring the one with the "excommunication" of Francis? The Ukrainian Catholic church in your area would not be a part of that group.
It is not going to be in Latin guaranteed. It is actually probably going to be in Old Church Slavonic. That is their traditional Liturgical Language. If not, Ukrainian. They may have an English translation on hand, though. All of the byzantine parishes I have attended have married priests with children, so it is common.
UGCC has some issues, but they're very mild compared to the Novus Ordo ... little different than what you might find at a liberal parish in the U.S. in the 1950s for instance. These sedevacantists were reacting more to the Roman "Popes" than to the UGCC per se.
Very few -- if any -- Ukrainian Catholic churches would use Old Church Slavonic. There are still Eastern Orthodox churches in the US that use OCS such as ROCOR and other groups but Ukrainian churches that are Catholic by and large only use Ukrainian and English (in the US).I will agree though that the Eastern rites especially of the Byzantine retention are very beautiful.