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Sedevacantism Cant be True because of Arch-Bishop Thuc?
« on: August 24, 2015, 02:33:19 PM »
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    19.  Fr. Boulet proceeds to mention, with no apparent reason or effect, the career of Archbishop
    Thuc.  Suffice to say that I agree with his judgement that, “he was a good man much abused by many
    on account of his own readiness to consecrate bishops...”

    Immediately after the comments on Archbishop Thuc are presented various arguments regarding
    the so-called “sedevacantist attitude.”  Let us consider these one by one.

    http://www.novusordowatch.org/sspx_dossier_sede.pdf


    This seems like an objection that was just thrown out there to see if it would stick.  

    Arch-bishop Thuc acted imprudently - therefore SV is not true.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Sedevacantism Cant be True because of Arch-Bishop Thuc?
    « Reply #1 on: August 24, 2015, 03:18:09 PM »
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  • Archbishop Thuc was consecrated a bishop by Pope Pius XI.  

    If there's arguments againts sedevantism they would not center on Archbishop Thuc.  


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    Sedevacantism Cant be True because of Arch-Bishop Thuc?
    « Reply #2 on: August 24, 2015, 04:24:50 PM »
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  • I read the book, Sedevacantism:  A False Solution to a Real Problem, some years ago.  I remember thinking at the time that the author made a lot of good points but most of them were not even about sedevacantism.  Frankly, I don't remember the case described above, but it would seem to me that if Archbishop Thuc has anything to do with the issue, his consecrations would tend to indicate that God's Providence used the archbishop to keep the Church alive while the Conciliar church was out there invalidating the line of succession of the bishops from the Apostles by invalidating the Conciliar Rites of Orders--especially in regards to the consecration of bishops, which would support sedevacantism rather than refute it.

    However, I do not think Archbishop Thuc's actions is evidence either for or against sedevacantism.  The evidence for sedevacantism can be summed up in the publicly professed heresies of Jorge Bergoglio.


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    Sedevacantism Cant be True because of Arch-Bishop Thuc?
    « Reply #3 on: August 24, 2015, 05:17:30 PM »
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  • You could just as easily say sedevacantism cannot be true because Shuckhardt was the first prominent sedevacantist and we all know what happened to him. Or you could say that sedevacantism can't be true because the Dimond Brothers are sedevacantist or because Richard Ibranyi is a sedevacantist, or because Father Cekada is a sedevacantist, and it could go on.
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    Sedevacantism Cant be True because of Arch-Bishop Thuc?
    « Reply #4 on: August 25, 2015, 06:45:22 AM »
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    I read the book, Sedevacantism:  A False Solution to a Real Problem, some years ago.  I remember thinking at the time that the author made a lot of good points but most of them were not even about sedevacantism.  Frankly, I don't remember the case described above, but it would seem to me that if Archbishop Thuc has anything to do with the issue, his consecrations would tend to indicate that God's Providence used the archbishop to keep the Church alive while the Conciliar church was out there invalidating the line of succession of the bishops from the Apostles by invalidating the Conciliar Rites of Orders--especially in regards to the consecration of bishops, which would support sedevacantism rather than refute it.

    However, I do not think Archbishop Thuc's actions is evidence either for or against sedevacantism.  The evidence for sedevacantism can be summed up in the publicly professed heresies of Jorge Bergoglio.



    Nice post.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


     

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