Plenus viadatus seems to advise me to join some group like Pope Michael. His posts are mostly juvenile and lacking substance. I think he should mature a bit before taking himself so seriously. Not really interested in engaging in discussion with him anymore.

Then why don't you choose one of the conclavist groups that have already done this? Which one would you choose, CA, I wonder? Maybe I could give you three options like you gave me?

I will tell you why you don't choose one of those groups - because something deep down in your blessed Catholic heart tells you that they are in schism. You recognise the ones that have not behaved in this schismatic fashion as the true Catholics, yet if they would all come together and embark on that course of action, it would seem to give you more comfort, it would then legitimise this schismatic way by force or numbers?

Yet our religion is not a numbers game. If that is the Catholic way, it is the right way and you should be on it, regardless of whether Bishop Williamson does it, or Bishop Da Silva does it, or Bishop Pivarunas does it. Is that not so?

No, that is not what God requires of us. That is an oversimplification of what is happening in the Church. It is simply not a true and just judgement that the hierarchy has defected, that there is nothing left of it in the mainstream Church.

Heed the advice of St Robert Bellarmine regarding a Pope destroying the Church - tell me how you destroy the Church if you do not destroy the Faith:

"But they will say, therefore, only the Church is without remedy if it has a bad Pope, and the Pope can disturb all things unpunished, and destroy and no one will be able to resist. I respond: No wonder, if the Church remains without an efficacious human remedy, seeing that its safety does not rest principally upon human industry, but divine protection, since God is its King. Therefore, even if the Church could not depose a Pope, still, it may and must beg the Lord that he would apply the remedy, and it is certain that God has care of its safety, that He would either convert the Pope or abolish him from the midst before he destroys the Church. Nevertheless, it does not follow from here that it is not lawful to resist a Pope destroying the Church; for it is lawful to admonish him while preserving all reverence, and to modestly correct him, even to oppose him with force and arms if he means to destroy the Church. For to resist and repel by force of arms, no authority is required".

Imagine, a Pope can want to destroy the Church. That can be his desire, his intention. So many do not want to believe it. No, such a one cannot be Pope, let us create another!

God will indeed convert him or banish him. Pray fifteen decades of the Rosary every day for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, as Bishop Williamson never tires of telling us, and you will do more to achieve God's plan than by a schismatic act of establishing a parallel hierarchy.

This conference by Bishop Pivarunas was also turned into a booklet which he uses in the conference. I actually think the conference covers it very well. Bishop Pivarunas personally gave me a copy of the booklet because I had heard the conference several times and asked which booklet or docuмent he used. He found a copy and gave me special permission to make as many copies as I want and distribute them. Then later I noticed they were selling them for very cheap on the CMRI bookstore so I just bought several there as well. Here is the conference link. It’s about thirty minutes long. There are parts where I believe it could be interpreted to favor a legitimate form of solving the crisis. I can’t remember the minute mark. Maybe somewhere around twenty minutes. But it’s only 30 minutes long and very much worth listening to the whole thing. Then maybe buying the booklet for a few bucks to have on hand.

https://youtu.be/vSkwPiqyv-k?si=wkyFRZND8_OAvWud

The identity of the Roman Pontiff is not an opinion. It is of paramount importance. It is a dogma (ex cathedra! ) that it is necessary for salvation to be submitted to the Roman Pontiff (a picture in the vestibule isn’t sufficient).

I agree we should draw the line and limit ourselves. As can be seen in your forum, the rabid anti-sede recognize and resisters are actually willing to DENY the DOGMA of the Indefectibility of the Catholic Church in order to keep their figure head Pope in place. Talk about crossing the line!

Why are these important? How have you concluded that these are absolutely essential to Catholicism but somehow the Pope is totally meaningless (if not in theory, at least in practice). Someone can turn back around and say well this is just your opinion that these things are important, just like how you say the importance of the identity of the Pope is just a side issue with minimal weight.

The Papacy, which was Divinely instituted by Christ, the rock and foundation of the Church, doesn’t matter in effect and it’s just your opinion and we can all get along without him. That completely runs contrary to Tradition. The hallmark of a Catholic is his submission to the Pope.
The Papacy is irrelevant to Catholicism said no Catholic ever.

It’s not just about the isolated question surrounding the Pope. This topic reaches so much further. Depending on how one answers this fundamental question will dictate their beliefs about the Church as a whole; her nature, essence. Some users on this platform insist that Bergoglio is the Pope which causes them to conclude that in fact the Church and her teaching authority is capable of becoming corrupt in faith and morals. I would never attend Mass with people who believe those egregious heresies and blasphemies. We can’t act side by side because we have SUBSTANTIALLY different beliefs about the Catholic Church. Differing beliefs that simply can’t be ignored for the sake of false unity. I will not sacrifice the Church’s teaching concerning the Indefectibility of the Roman See to “Unite the Clans”. These are non negotiable. Saints have sacrificed their lives to defend the divine rights of Peter and his successors.

The identity of the Roman Pontiff is not an opinion. It is of paramount importance. It is a dogma (ex cathedra! ) that it is necessary for salvation to be submitted to the Roman Pontiff (a picture in the vestibule isn’t sufficient).

I agree we should draw the line and limit ourselves. As can be seen in your forum, the rabid anti-sede recognize and resisters are actually willing to DENY the DOGMA of the Indefectibility of the Catholic Church in order to keep their figure head Pope in place. Talk about crossing the line!

I'm guessing this is the correct booklet:

Answering Objections to the Sedevacantist Position – Mary Immaculate Queen Center (miqcenter.com)