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Title: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Matthew on July 19, 2025, 12:41:13 PM
It is literally the same software as Stephen Kokx's site.

https://seraphim54.substack.com/p/apologia-pro-vita-sua

A. Introduction:
For many years, I was known online as a zealous, dogmatic anti-sedevacantist. A decade of polemical articles, posts on Cathinfo.com, my own defunct blogs, and various other internet fora, websites, and comments boxes had cemented a reputation as a cantankerous opponent of anything smelling of sedevacantism. Many were justifiably surprised, then, to discover some comments I’d made over at LSN which seemed to suggest I’d undergone a change of position, and was either now a sedevacantist myself, or at least open to the possibility of sedevacantism. If they were correct, what accounted for the change? And what exactly is my position now, if in fact there has been some change? It seemed strange to many that a once-prolific online writer should suddenly drop off the radar, only to be accidentally rediscovered advocating what seemed to be a very different position from his former R&R orientation. This article, then, will attempt to offer an explanation to those who might be interested in hearing one.
In this first installment, we will consider the intellectual and moral processes by which men arrive at religious truth in matters which do not avail themselves of mathematical certitude generally. In a second (and final) installment, we will show how these intellective processes, applied to our own particular circuмstances, suggested (compelled?) the course I have embarked upon.
It is important to note that, although Part II will be more interesting to those who are familiar with my previous writings and positions, since it provides the details of how I arrived at my present position, Part I is essential for understanding why those details led to the conclusion which follows.

B. Newman’s Theory of Converging Probabilities
In a concise pamphlet titled “Newman: A Guide for Our Time,” Msgr. Philip Flanagan explained how Newman believed men arrived at certitude in matters which do not avail themselves of mathematical certitude:
“The basis of his argument is that in all matters of a non-mathematical nature the reasons which move us to assent are often implicit and personal [e.g., “signal graces” -SJ], convincing to the individual who sees them, but not susceptible to being put into words in a way that will necessarily convince others. As a rule, our conviction arises from what he called “converging probabilities,” a multitude of small indications, none of which is by itself sufficient to clinch the matter, but all of which point to the same conclusion which in the end the mind is forced to accept because no other conclusion can explain the evidence…to refuse to do so would be unreasonable…” (p. 25)
Concomitantly, Newman also emphasized the proper moral disposition in the reception of truth, as Msgr. Flanagan describes:
“Newman emphasizes also the need for the right moral dispositions in the search for religious truth. The man of goodwill is already looking for the truth, longing for it, watching and listening for any sign from God; and, when he comes across it, he recognizes it as the truth; it is what he has been looking for and he accepts it gladly, whereas the man who lacks the right dispositions will carp at it and find excuses for rejecting it. Thus, the same external evidence will convince one individual, while leaving another totally unconvinced.” (Ibid.)
This method of “converging probabilities” has always been one of the methods by which I have sought to apprehend truth (the two others being the discernment of spirits and seeking/receiving qualified counsel) in matters which do not avail themselves of mathematical and/or infallible certitude. Although the consideration of these converging probabilities is an exercise in intellection, I will explain it materially (in concreto), so that readers will clearly understand the mechanics of what is happening during this assessment process:
Take pen and paper, and in the center of the paper, write down a proposition you are considering rendering internal assent to, and circle it (e.g., Vatican II is not a legitimate ecuмenical council). Now, around that circle draw an arrow pointing toward the circled proposition, and upon it write down one piece of evidence which seems to corroborate the truth of the proposition. Continue doing so for each additional proposition you believe evinces that Vatican II is nota legitimate council (e.g., It contradicts previous magisterial teaching; it professes novelties; it was not dogmatic; it defined nothing; it used the form of “council” but had none of the substance of a council; it overthrew tradition; it was the French Revolution in the Church; “If the Church was not divine, this council would have buried it”; etc. etc.
You will soon find that your circle is surrounded with dozens of arrows (i.e., pieces of corroborating evidence) pointing toward your circled conclusion that Vatican II was not a legitimate ecuмenical council of the Catholic Church. In such a case, the intellect is drawn to consent to the proposition, since not to do so will seem irrational and dishonest.
It is important to note that Newman did not consider this method failsafe; it is not without the possibility and danger of error. Nevertheless, it will render such a high probability of truth and/or moral rectitude (something akin to what moralists would call “moral certitude”) that acting upon it will be eminently reasonable, even if not infallible. Neither should the lack of infallible certitude disturb the conscience, since in contingent matters infallible certitude is not possible, and it is therefore altogether unreasonable to expect it where it cannot be had.
Some readers may be familiar with my book “As We Are? 101 Compromises, Changes, and Contradictions of an SSPX in Pursuit of a Practical Accord with Modernist Rome,” which advanced the proposition that the SSPX had undergone a radical transformation of its apostolate, and supplied the evidence for it. The book was itself a gigantic exercise in Newman’s theory of converging probabilities, and proved the proposition through a cuмulation of 101 indications so well, that to ignore affirming the conclusion would be unreasonable.
So much for the method.
In Part II, we will apply this method to my own particular circuмstances, in defense of my present position.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Fiorenza on July 19, 2025, 03:59:05 PM
...and I will shew thee, by works, my faith - James 2:18

The issue of Papal Heresy can be more clearly understood in terms of behavior. There are popes doing what popes should not be doing. And a Church which is acting in such a way that would alarm even non-believers.

It is like abusive parents. One can try to cling to a bad parent, but they will simply keep hurting you. That is why we have Godparents.

For a Pope, when they simply do not act like a shepherd but a wolf, one is left looking for alternatives.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: October1917 on July 19, 2025, 05:54:17 PM
Couldn't care less about what this pompous, arrogant, condescending blow bag thinks about anything.
 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 19, 2025, 06:10:15 PM
Couldn't care less about what this pompous, arrogant, condescending blow bag thinks about anything.
 
In other words, you are unable to dispute any of the content, so you gratuitously attack the man.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 19, 2025, 07:11:58 PM
I have been wondering how SeanJohnson was doing.  Thank you so much for sharing this, Matthew!
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: caxap on July 19, 2025, 09:50:24 PM
Couldn't care less about what this pompous, arrogant, condescending blow bag thinks about anything.
That you, Ladislaus? :trollface:
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: ThatBritPapist on July 19, 2025, 10:37:32 PM
Couldn't care less about what this pompous, arrogant, condescending blow bag thinks about anything.
 
SJ has done much more than you Woman :jester::trollface::trollface::trollface:
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Incredulous on July 20, 2025, 04:37:29 PM
...and I will shew thee, by works, my faith - James 2:18

The issue of Papal Heresy can be more clearly understood in terms of behavior. There are popes doing what popes should not be doing. And a Church which is acting in such a way that would alarm even non-believers.

It is like abusive parents. One can try to cling to a bad parent, but they will simply keep hurting you. That is why we have Godparents.

For a Pope, when they simply do not act like a shepherd but a wolf, one is left looking for alternatives.

Good point!

This is reminiscent of one of the notorious "talking points", the SSPX had their priests give from the pulpits.
It was the analogy of the modernist popes being like "bad, fathers", men with drinking problems, who neglected their spouses and families. 

As they described it, it was the SSPX faithful, or "we Traditional Catholics", who played the critical role in being loyal, loving children seeking to preserve the family.  Our foremost duty was to act to protect Mom and try to show Dad correction of his bad ways.

The comedy of this analogy was that the modernist pope "dads" had gone far beyond drunkenness, wife & child beating. 
Their systematic dismantling of the Church and extreme judaizing was equivalent to dad coming home with an AK-47 and spaying the neighborhood... before torching the family home.  


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We "loving children", could only flee from the house, leave the neighborhood and call the cops, hoping they'd subdue dad before he did any further harm.

And then of course, it was "we bad children" who were demonized by our Catholic fratres (e.g., Michael Davies, SSPX, SSPX Resistance... etc.) who branded us as "sedes".  

It was we "crazy impious Catholics" who went outside the family and abandoned our poh, confused dads.   :facepalm:


Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Minnesota on July 20, 2025, 04:56:06 PM
Couldn't care less about what this pompous, arrogant, condescending blow bag thinks about anything.
 
Lad, what is this? Get over yourself.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: WorldsAway on July 20, 2025, 06:06:15 PM
The first comment on Sean's post started with "Welcome aboard, Sean ... (from aka Ladislaus)", and ended with "God bless, Sean. Glad to see you around". So I don't think October1917 is Lad :laugh1:
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Incredulous on July 20, 2025, 06:32:21 PM
Couldn't care less about what this pompous, arrogant, condescending blow bag thinks about anything.
 

Aw man... this is what we've been waiting for! 

Sean disappeared from the SSPX Resistance scene like Jimmy Hoffa disappeared from the Teamsters Union.

Let's hear him out.  It should be interesting. :cowboy:
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: St Giles on July 20, 2025, 06:57:32 PM
Couldn't care less about what this pompous, arrogant, condescending blow bag thinks about anything.
 
What makes you think we care to hear what an uncharitable name-caller has to say? Why don't you pray for him, an extra 5 decades, and remember him at Mass. I'm sure he'd appreciate it. 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Stubborn on July 21, 2025, 10:27:17 AM
In Part II, we will apply this method to my own particular circuмstances, in defense of my present position.
The signs were all there, it was just a matter of time....

Yes, good to hear. Some of his last posts make me think if he ever comes back, he will come back sede.

Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Matthew on July 24, 2025, 03:55:49 PM
Apologia Pro Vita Sua:
How I Arrived at a "Sede-Doubtist" Position (Part II)
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Sean Johnson (https://substack.com/@seraphim54)
Jul 23, 2025

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A. Introduction
In Part I (https://seraphim54.substack.com/p/apologia-pro-vita-sua) of this article, we explained how men arrive at religious conviction in matters which do not avail themselves of mathematical certitude, according to Cardinal Newman’s theory of converging probabilities (i.e., amassing such a cuмulation of indications pointing toward a particular conclusion, that to refuse assent to the conclusion would be unreasonable). We reviewed the role disposition plays in this intellective process, as an explanation of why two men viewing the exact same indications can come to opposite views. And we explained that although the method is not without all risk of error, nevertheless, one can arrive at such a high probability of certitude, approximating what moralists refer to as “moral certitude,” that it becomes eminently prudent and reasonable to act upon the conclusion.

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In this final installment, I will attempt to explain an array of factors which have tended to modify my position regarding the legitimacy of the conciliar and post-conciliar papal claimants, and caused me to arrive at my present position of “sede-doubtism,” which could be defined as “a position which considers the legitimacy of the recent papal claimants as being at least capable of question.”
But before proceeding, I would like to reemphasize the importance Cardinal Newman attributed to maintaining a proper disposition for the reception of truth: The man who is searching for truth is docile to it’s indications. And when these indications run contrary to competing principles already held, it can be difficult to set aside a priori convictions which militate against one’s preconceptions. If you came here ready to battle for your side (whatever it might be), you have already failed this test, and reading any further will be a waste of your time.
With this operative disposition in place, I’ll tell you my story.

B. My Position Until Recently
My position until recently was one of dogmatic anti-sedevacantism (i.e., an a priori predetermination to reject even the possibility that sedevacantism could be correct, and a semi-conscious or instinctive refusal to consider any argument advanced in its favor).
You will note immediately the defect in disposition inherent in dogmatic anti-sedevacantism, but there are a number of reasons for it (at least in my case):
Firstly, there was my SSPX indoctrination (social and doctrinal). I devoured all the articles, conferences, books, and sermons they published against sedevacantism, and therefore considered myself learned and already in possession of the truth, from which it followed that the sedevacantists must necessarily be wrong: If one thinks himself to be in the possession of truth, he will fight to retain it, promulgate it, and defend it, and that those who would oppose his truth are partisans of error to be fought. This in large part explains my formerly pugnacious demeanor in disputations on this subject.
But there was more.
I was taught, in the materials discussed above, that sedevacantism destroyed indefectibility, apostolicity, and visibility; it was schismatic not to accept the legitimacy of a universally accepted papal claimant; the identity of the pope was a dogmatic fact; Vatican I said there must be perpetual successors; etc. etc. Consequently, giving the slightest ear to the possibility of sedevacantism was an attack of the devil, and threatened to rob me not only of my own personal faith, but undermined the very credibility of the Catholic religion. Therefore, any consideration of sedevacantism was to be treated the same as an emergent impure thought: Smothered and dismissed as soon as possible, and this at an almost instinctive and preconscious level.
I was simply not equipped with the doctrinal foundation to accept the possibility of sedevacantism. So it was a war to the death, as faith and salvation seemed to be at stake.
But that fear would not last.

C. “Circuмstances are God’s Marching Orders”
So this was my predominant disposition, and very obviously, it was not conducive to the reception of truth. But unseen to most, in the background, there were a number of peculiar circuмstances which had been chipping away at my hostility toward the possibility of sedevacantism, and which, over time, would cause me more and more to reevaluate my own position on the subject.
First among these was my deteriorating relationship with the SSPX. When I’d first stepped foot in their churches, I was convinced that here was the truth. I’d found it at last. And as I mentioned, with that belief in mind, I became one of their most zealous lay advocates. But the reorientation of the SSPX in 2012 (and in truth, almost immediately after the death of +Lefebvre) came as a shock to me. Seeing the way in which they were turning their backs on +Lefebvre in so many areas, changing their positions as though they had previously been wrong, and hiding their quid pro quo compromises with modernist Rome from the faithful, was disillusioning to say the least, and it implied this question:
“If the reorientation of the neo-SSPX suggested they were wrong about many things previously, what else were they wrong about?” In other words, the betrayal of +Lefebvre and their about-face on a number of subjects had caused for me a trust issue.
Nevertheless, we hung on to SSPX Mass attendance despite being publicly aligned with the Resistance (there being no regular Resistance Mass venue in our area), in order to have access to the sacraments, and especially to put our children in the school. But because of various conflicts with chapel and school personnel, we were eventually given an ultimatum by which we would be forced to agree in advance and in writing that our children would partake in all school activities, or they would not be welcome to continue attending. Our opposition was likely known in advance, and we did not accept this ultimatum. Consequently, we were not only strained in our relationship with the SSPX, but were now also without a school (which was the only reason we moved into this area on the first place).
Between all the Resistance-related strife with the SSPX, and then the loss of the school, it began to seem as though God might be removing us from the SSPX, despite our desire to hang on. Then, in the summer of 2024 it was announced that a new priest would be transferred to the chapel, who had never been conditionally ordained in the old rite.
Checkmate.
Soon we would be without sacraments. Where were we to go?

D. The Lefebvre Quotes
Watching the SSPX do an about-face on so many subjects was sending me the message that they were subtly backtracking on many of their former positions (whether in order to ingratiate themselves with modernist Rome, or because they’d become convinced they were simply wrong), which they now seemed to doubt: Consenting to the 2017 marriage guidelines seemed to suggest they doubted the prior validity of their own marriages; reversing their position on abortive vaccines; discarding the post-1988 principle of action of +Lefebvre vis-a-vis modernist Rome; etc., etc. All these things had combined to form a trust issue, and that trust issue seemed to predispose me to question their positions on other issues.
As regards the pope question, I’d been familiar with the many +Lefebvre quotes seemingly supportive of the possibility of sedevacantism for many years. But somehow, my reflexive reaction to these, when presented by various sedevacantist personas online, was to presume they’d been somehow taken out of context, or misinterpreted, misunderstood, or at worst, were out of character and/or exceptional statements, made at highly volatile times (e.g., after Assisi), and therefore could not be considered +Lefebvre’s true position. But having come to look with a more critical eye on many of the SSPX positions, I involuntarily began to internalize these quotes in a different light, rather than through the indoctrinated anti-sedevacantist lens of former years.
I’m not going to post the litany of quotes +Lefebvre made which seemed to allow for the possibility of sedevacante (though they are contained in one of the resources in the Reading List at the end of this article), but if that great prelate can give a spiritual conference (https://www.wmreview.org/p/medieval-peasants-didnt-know-the) to seminarians in which he is considering whether or not an heretical pope remains a pope, and answers, “I do not know, I am not making a decision! But you can ask yourselves the question. I think that any sensible man must ask himself the question. I do not know,” then I would like to count myself amongst such sensible men, and allow that such a thing is possible.
But the big gap was to consider how such a thing could be justified doctrinally.

E. The Dominos Begin to Fall
So the ralliement of the SSPX to Rome had caused me to question many things coming from the Society which I’d formerly accepted on authority. Circuмstances had forced us out of the school and chapel, and there was no Resistance Mass locally. I was soon to be a man without a country, so to speak. But meanwhile, I was understanding the +Lefebvre quotes in a new light, thanks to this reevaluation which the trust issue had inspired. But what was still missing was the doctrinal foundation in support of the possibility of sedevacantism:
If the pope was a “nope,” wasn’t a declaration of the cardinals or bishops necessary for the peace and certitude of the Church? Wasn’t it schismatic to question the legitimacy of a sitting pope? And what of the seeming issues pertaining to apostolicity (i.e., the hierarchy has vanished), indefectibility, perpetual successors, visibility, schism, dogmatic fact, and all the rest of the objections I’d been so well formed in? It seemed there were just too many objections for sedevacantism to be doctrinally plausible. And in fact, it almost seemed as if, in my former mindset, one could array a contrary list of converging indications against the possibility of sedevacantism (but only if one ignored the disposition issue, which is essential to the method).
Providentially, I believe, while all this was happening, a friend of mine had turned me on to a Substack called the WM Review (https://www.wmreview.org/). This was an altogether different kind of sedevacantist website: Well-researched articles without a trace of passion or animus, and they were hitting all the right buttons (including all those I mentioned above). There was no attempt to bind readers to their conclusions. Just a calm presentation of what the approved popes and theologians had said, with a bit of commentary for context. My new disposition combined with their writing style allowed me to read their research without engaging my choleric temperament, and this in turn facilitated a fair reading of the material.
About the same time, one of their authors (Matthew McCusker) was -almost miraculously, it seemed to me- allowed to publish a series on papal legitimacy over at LifeSiteNews (https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/is-francis-the-pope-the-argument-from-public-heresy-suggests-not/), which argued among many other things, that, since Francis was a public heretic (therefore separated from the Catholic Church, of which the pope needed to be a member), Francis could not possibly be a true pope. I’d also been reading Dr. John Lamont (a non-sedevacantist) over at the indult Rorate Coeli blog, who’d compiled a list of Francis’s public heresies (https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2023/11/pope-francis-as-public-heretic-evidence.html). These and other sources had begun dismantling my former objections, and I’d realized that arguments against sedevacantism which I’d formerly considered unassailable were in fact capable of convincing rebuttals.
I’m going to resist the urge to address all the objections against sedevacantism, and the sedevacantist responses. Instead, I’m appending a list of articles and authors I found convincing to the end of this article, but remember: The point is not to convince you the reader, but instead to explain how I became convinced that sedevacantism was at least a possibility. One by one, my objections began to fall like dominos, and my reasons for rejecting the possibility of sedevacantism became fewer and fewer. These authors had supplied the doctrinal building blocks, and it completely changed my perspective.
This was a watershed moment for me.

F. The indications Mount
Recalling Msgr. Flanagan’s emphasis on the importance Cardinal Newman assigned to good disposition, saying the man of good disposition “is already seeking the truth, looking for any sign from God, and when he receives it, he recognizes it as the truth, and accepts it happily,” I became conscious that an array of signs or indications was mounting, which seemed to suggest that God Himself was pulling me out of my perplexities, and setting me upon the course He wanted, and that this might be the local SSPV/CSPV chapel (Some of the indications below have not been explained yet, but I’ll get to them):

It seemed (and seems) to me that this was too much to chalk up to coincidence. There was a process which was taking place, and I was not always its cause. I had the sense that this wonderful convergence of circuмstances was transpiring by design, and was being directed from above. But as I was not yet a convinced sedevacantist, while simultaneously no longer able to hold my former “recognize and resist” positions, it seemed I was in a theological no man’s land, so to speak. But I wasn’t.
I’d been revisiting the possibility of attending St. Anne’s Chapel (White Bear Lake, MN), run by Fr. Mrocza (SSPV), and in his semi-retirement mostly tended by the priests of the aligned CSPV. What a “coincidence” that not only did this group adhere to the pre-1955 Holy Week and Missal (which all know me to love), but they had a k-12 school taught by nuns. And although having only two schools in the whole country, one of them was right in my backyard. But what were their principles? Would a “sede-doubtist” like me, who was somewhat on the fence (even if leaning in the sedevacantist direction) be welcome? I was very pleased to visit Fr. Jenkins’ (SSPV) website, and read in his “Statement of Principles (https://www.wcbohio.com/articles/sspv-statement-of-principles)” a position which perfectly conformed to my own:
“Among Catholics who are presently adhering to tradition, bishops, priests, and laity alike, we observe a marked difference of opinion concerning the legitimacy of the present hierarchy. We hold that there is certain and sufficient evidence to assert, as a legitimate theological opinion, that anyone who publicly professes the conciliar religion does not legitimately hold any position of authority in the Catholic Church, for the reasons stated in paragraph seven. While we do not claim the authority to settle this question definitively, we believe that the legitimacy of this theological opinion is dictated by logic and a correct application of Catholic theological principles. We recognize that the definitive and authoritative resolution to such theological questions rests ultimately with the magisterium of the Church. We thus deplore the attempt of some to settle this question by acting as though they had the authority to bind the consciences of the faithful in matters which have not been definitively settled by the Church.”
This was precisely the perspective I had developed, what Ladislaus on Cathinfo had referred to as “sede-doubtism.” And mysteriously, there was the Church, sacraments, and school all right there across town.
The rest, as they say, is history.

G. Conclusion
I hope I have given sufficient explanation to those who have wondered how I arrived at my present position (whether they agree with me or not). The events, movements of soul and intellect, and circuмstances I have described may not convince you. That’s fine. But they convinced me of the the possibility of sedevacantism. And according to my reading of Cardinal Newman’s method, it seems to me, as it seemed to +Lefebvre (in the quote above), that any reasonable man must ask himself whether publicly heretical popes remain true popes.
If you were to ask me, “Mr. Johnson, in plain words, which way do you lean?” I’d have to say that I tend to find the sedevacantist argument the more persuasive (particularly the argument from public heresy), and I’ll give you my reason:
It used to be that I was terrified to entertain sedevacantism, because I considered it a threat to my faith: If the Church has had no pope for 60 years, can it really be the true Church? Today, I see things practically the opposite: To admit a true pope can spread heresies by the handful in his official magisterial teachings is to negate the raison d’etre of having a pope in the first place (whether he does it infallibly or non-infallibly). More than this, it would seem to severely undermine the claims of the Catholic Church to be the one true Church and the one true religion divinely constituted by Christ, and is therefore a mortal temptation against the faith itself. Consequently, I have come to view sedevacantism not as an attack against the faith, but rather, as an explanation which enables men to retain their faith in the face of apostasy.
All that said, I’m aware of my own shortcomings, and the fact that I have been wrong in the past. It is not impossible to be wrong again. And so with this in mind, I refrain from declaring sedevacante as an act in humility…even if I suspect they’re correct.
This is more or less how I arrived at my present position.

H. Reading List:


Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 24, 2025, 04:24:00 PM
Sean is the perfect example of the modern-day Trad.  Putting emphasis on things which aren’t essential (ie R&R vs Sede). 

He would single-handedly divide and cause consternation on almost every thread he was a part of.  The theology was not the problem; his emphasis on its importance was. 

Now he’s done a 180 and writes a blog because he’s too chicken to come back here and apologize for being a jerk. 

Whether he’s a sede now or not, I dont care.  The matter is still undecided.  The Church hasn’t spoken.  It’s a debatable issue. 

But he’s still acting like it’s part of his religious journey.  As if he’s gained some “spiritual insight” that he wishes to share.  He still hasn’t figured out that it doesn’t matter.  He’s just changed sides in a war of opinion.  Why should anyone care?
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: MiracleOfTheSun on July 24, 2025, 06:20:22 PM
B. My Position Until Recently
...Firstly, there was my SSPX indoctrination (social and doctrinal). 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Angelus on July 24, 2025, 06:23:53 PM
Sean is humbly seeking the Truth. Good man. May God reward him.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 24, 2025, 06:29:41 PM
Sean is humbly seeking the Truth. Good man. May God reward him.
Sean used to chastise sedes, because he was close-minded.  Now he's going to chastise the sspx for the same reason.  Has nothing to do with humility.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 24, 2025, 11:32:39 PM
Sean used to chastise sedes, because he was close-minded.  Now he's going to chastise the sspx for the same reason.  Has nothing to do with humility.

O Paragon of Humility, May you receive at His Judgment Seat the same forgiveness you display here.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 24, 2025, 11:56:05 PM
O Paragon of Humility, May you receive at His Judgment Seat the same forgiveness you display here.
Has nothing to do with forgiveness.  Sean is now disparaging the sspx, saying they “indoctrinated” him.  His own words.

Instead of blaming the sspx, he should blame himself for his own stubbornness.  How many years was he on this site and he rejected any/all civil discussions of sedeism, in its many forms?  He wouldn’t even consider it a possibility.  Thats on him, not the sspx. 

I don’t care what Sean believes.  But if he’s going to make himself a public figure, then I’ll comment on his public opinions.  He can be R&R or Sede or neither.  I think he’s a good-natured guy, but his thought process is too extreme.  His 180 from R&R to sedeism is already turning into the same issue as before - a lack of nuance.  All or nothing.  Thats never good.   Not in matters of opinion. 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 24, 2025, 11:58:18 PM
O Paragon of Humility, May you receive at His Judgment Seat the same forgiveness and rewarded for your humility you display here.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 12:01:58 AM
I don’t care what Sean believes.  But if he’s going to make himself a public figure, then I’ll comment on his public opinions.  …

I see. You deride him because you "don't care."
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 12:07:55 AM
I see. You deride him because you "don't care."
I am deriding his opinions and his expression of such, which 9 times out of 10, he did so with a lack of distinctions.  Sedeism was 100% wrong.  Now it’s 100% right.  Anyone who tried to have a reasonable objection was chastised.  Now he’s chastising the sspx/R&R.  Nothings changed.  Same ol’ Sean.  That’s the point.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 12:12:10 AM
I am deriding his opinions and his expression of such, which 9 times out of 10, he did so with a lack of distinctions.  Sedeism was 100% wrong.  Now it’s 100% right.  Anyone who tried to have a reasonable objection was chastised.  Now he’s chastising the sspx/R&R.  Nothings changed.  Same ol’ Sean.  That’s the point.
Because I care… :laugh2:… You are a pompous self-impressed font of worthless opinions.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Stubborn on July 25, 2025, 07:08:42 AM
I am deriding his opinions and his expression of such, which 9 times out of 10, he did so with a lack of distinctions.  Sedeism was 100% wrong.  Now it’s 100% right.  Anyone who tried to have a reasonable objection was chastised.  Now he’s chastising the sspx/R&R.  Nothings changed.  Same ol’ Sean.  That’s the point.
Sean is like a speeding bullet - never takes time to check out the scenery.  I always liked him though, even when he was a jerk to me lol

But you're right Pax re: "Putting emphasis on things which aren’t essential (ie R&R vs Sede)." 

I have never understood the need to make the opinion so all important essential.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 08:11:52 AM
Such brave and honorable "men" to persist in insulting someone who is not present.

What will men say of you when you are gone?
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mr G on July 25, 2025, 08:54:38 AM
 His 180 from R&R to sedeism is already turning into the same issue as before - a lack of nuance.  All or nothing. 
Actually, his position is not "all or nothing", as his position is that of Fr. Jenkins and the SSPV, sede-doubtist. It is very close to the Resistance position in that they have nothing to do with the Conciliar hierarchy, unlike the SSPX which has some relations with them. Sean and the SSPV may have a strong doubt if Pope Leo is truly the Pope but they are not claiming it as a 100% fact.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 09:06:04 AM
I see. You deride him because you "don't care."
:facepalm:  Taking what I said out of context.  You’re now blindly defending Sean because he’s on your “Sede team”. 

The point is, both R&R and Sedeism are OPINIONS.  Both make good points, both have limitations.  “I don’t care” which side Sean (or anyone else picks) because neither side is doctrinal and neither side is heretical.  

If I do care, it’s about being extreme and dogmatic about either.  Sean was (wrongly) dogmatic about R&R and now he seems to be dogmatic about Sedeism.  Being dogmatic about either is illogical and contrary to catholic theolgy.  
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 09:14:17 AM
Actually, his position is not "all or nothing", as his position is that of Fr. Jenkins and the SSPV, sede-doubtist. It is very close to the Resistance position in that they have nothing to do with the Conciliar hierarchy, unlike the SSPX which has some relations with them. Sean and the SSPV may have a strong doubt if Pope Leo is truly the Pope but they are not claiming it as a 100% fact.
Not true.  You can claim something isn’t a fact DIRECTLY but if you consistently argue that “the other side” is wrong, you are INDIRECTLY IMPLYING that your side is factual.  

If you truly believe that your side is only probable (and not fact) then there shouldn’t be ANY criticism of a contrary position, as the other positions COULD be correct.  That’s logic.  

But some feign false humility by asserting probability while at the same time treating other views as false, which means their own is not just probable but factual.  You can’t have it both ways. 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Catholic Knight on July 25, 2025, 09:20:21 AM
There are different levels of certitude regarding the truth of a proposition:

1. Ignorance
2. Doubt
3. Opinion
4. Moral
5. Physical
6. Metaphysical

The SSPV fall into the areas of doubt and opinion.  In a recent episode of What Catholics Believe, if I recall correctly, Fr. Jenkins himself expressed that it was his opinion that Jorge Bergoglio was not pope. 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mr G on July 25, 2025, 09:37:19 AM
Not true.  You can claim something isn’t a fact DIRECTLY but if you consistently argue that “the other side” is wrong, you are INDIRECTLY IMPLYING that your side is factual. 

If you truly believe that your side is only probable (and not fact) then there shouldn’t be ANY criticism of a contrary position, as the other positions COULD be correct.  That’s logic. 

But some feign false humility by asserting probability while at the same time treating other views as false, which means their own is not just probable but factual.  You can’t have it both ways.
Yes, you can easily have it both ways as not all opinions and the opposite are held exactly 50% for one and 50% for the other, some opinions are stronger than others and thus one opinion will be easier to criticize than the other. Maybe for you every opinion you have is held at 50% and you never criticize the opposite opinion. but it is not logical to think that your 50/50 way of viewing every opinion is correct and must apply to others.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 09:49:19 AM
Yes, you can easily have it both ways as not all opinions and the opposite are held exactly 50% for one and 50% for the other, some opinions are stronger than others and thus one opinion will be easier to criticize than the other. Maybe for you every opinion you have is held at 50% and you never criticize the opposite opinion. but it is not logical to think that your 50/50 way of viewing every opinion is correct and must apply to others.
Sure, debate and criticizing of opposing views is fine and necessary.  What crosses the line is condemnation, which Sean often practices.  It’s illogical.  
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Stubborn on July 25, 2025, 09:53:16 AM
Such brave and honorable "men" to persist in insulting someone who is not present.

What will men say of you when you are gone?
It's nothing I have not told him while he was here and I would say to him face to face if it ever came up, so quit your stupid  virtue signaling like a Liberal already. 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: St Giles on July 25, 2025, 12:08:39 PM
I am deriding his opinions and his expression of such, which 9 times out of 10, he did so with a lack of distinctions.  Sedeism was 100% wrong.  Now it’s 100% right.  Anyone who tried to have a reasonable objection was chastised.  Now he’s chastising the sspx/R&R.  Nothings changed.  Same ol’ Sean.  That’s the point.
I missed the part where he is now a sedevacantist, let alone a dogmatic one. He seems to be in the middle, open to possibilities, but on the side of doubting the popes with good reason rather than being certain they are true popes. I was afraid he went full sede, but reading through part 2 shows he hasn't gone from one extreme to the other, and is in the middle.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 12:54:53 PM
It's nothing I have not told him while he was here and I would say to him face to face if it ever came up, so quit your stupid  virtue signaling like a Liberal already.
I am not signaling "virtue," I am signaling that you and PV are assholes for banging on about Sean. The man changed his opinion over the course of years. B.F.D.

Get over yourselves, Little Boys.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 01:10:23 PM
I missed the part where he is now a sedevacantist, let alone a dogmatic one. He seems to be in the middle, open to possibilities, but on the side of doubting the popes with good reason rather than being certain they are true popes. I was afraid he went full sede, but reading through part 2 shows he hasn't gone from one extreme to the other, and is in the middle.
I’m not talking about his position but his attitude.  Hes already blaming the sspx for “indoctrination” (his word).   No, he wasn’t indoctrinated.  He was just stubborn.  Plenty of people tried to reason with him to be moderate.  
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 01:12:38 PM
I am not signaling "virtue," I am signaling that you and PV are assholes for banging on about Sean. The man changed his opinion over the course of years. B.F.D.

Get over yourselves, Little Boys.
Has nothing to do with Sean’s position.  His attitude was 100% a-hole.  To everyone who disagreed with him.  Now he’s changed positions and he’s being an a-hole to the other side.  The irony is hilarious.  
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Stubborn on July 25, 2025, 02:08:36 PM
I am not signaling "virtue,"
Yes, you are, so sthu already. Nobody really cares if Sean is a sede, or a can't decider, or decides not to decide, or decides to just float around somewhere in the middle, scratching his head dwelling on the idea till kingdom come - who cares?

Apparently he freely chose to create a blog and publish to the whole world what his problem is, or was, or will be. This means that at the same time, he also freely chose to bring on whatever repercussions. 
    
 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Gray2023 on July 25, 2025, 02:14:44 PM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 03:33:36 PM
:popcorn:
Why am I not surprised that a person with her own emotional problems finds discord entertaining?
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 03:35:05 PM
Yes, you are, so sthu already. Nobody really cares if Sean is a sede, or a can't decider, or decides not to decide, or decides to just float around somewhere in the middle, scratching his head dwelling on the idea till kingdom come - who cares?

Apparently he freely chose to create a blog and publish to the whole world what his problem is, or was, or will be. This means that at the same time, he also freely chose to bring on whatever repercussions.
   
 
Why do you even care?

Is your life so empty that you need Sean to fill it?

Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 03:35:52 PM
Has nothing to do with Sean’s position.  His attitude was 100% a-hole.  To everyone who disagreed with him.  Now he’s changed positions and he’s being an a-hole to the other side.  The irony is hilarious. 
The irony is actually that your life is so empty that you need Sean to fill it.

Get over yourselves, Little Boys.

Sean wrote a worthy book and is doing a good job of raising a large Catholic family. What have you (plural!) ever done of visible value for the Faith?

You (plural!) are due to re-read Matthew 7:3-5.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 03:49:11 PM
The irony is actually that your life is so empty that you need Sean to fill it.

Get over yourselves, Little Boys.

Sean wrote a worthy book and is doing a good job of raising a large Catholic family. What have you (plural!) ever done of visible value for the Faith?

You (plural!) are due to re-read Matthew 7:3-5.
Fan boy.  lol.  
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 04:38:11 PM
Loser!
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: St Giles on July 25, 2025, 08:07:16 PM
I’m not talking about his position but his attitude.  Hes already blaming the sspx for “indoctrination” (his word).  No, he wasn’t indoctrinated.  He was just stubborn.  Plenty of people tried to reason with him to be moderate. 
What's he supposed to say? The SSPX doesn't tell people to research the issue with an open mind, and that it's ok to doubt the pope. They say the current claimant is pope, or they don't say anything. They downplay opposing arguments as baseless nonsense.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Plenus Venter on July 25, 2025, 08:51:39 PM
What's he supposed to say? The SSPX doesn't tell people to research the issue with an open mind, and that it's ok to doubt the pope. They say the current claimant is pope, or they don't say anything. They downplay opposing arguments as baseless nonsense.
What the SSPX USED TO say, and what the Resistance continues to say, is exactly what Archbishop Lefebvre, the guide given us by Providence, concluded; and that is, that when we look into the theology, the problem is not as simple as we might have thought, and that it is a good presumption that the man held to be Pope by the Church is the Pope, and that we should continue to pray for him as Pope. At the same time, it is clear (to all except the Neo-SSPX) that, as the Archbishop said: "It is a strict duty for every priest wanting to remain Catholic to separate himself from this Conciliar Church for as long as it does not rediscover the Tradition of the Church and of the Catholic Faith". 

To "tell people to research the issue with an open mind" would only cause unnecessary confusion, chaos and division. In practice, it has also led to Catholics isolating themselves from the Mass and the sacraments. We are not meant to be theologians, let alone solve disputed theological questions that the Church has not pronounced upon. Follow the guide God gave us. It's worked well for all these years, and it will continue to keep us safe until Rome re-crowns Our Lord Jesus Christ as King.

Sean has done a good deal of good for the Catholic cause. May God and Our Lady keep him and his family safe. Let us pray for him.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Matthew on July 25, 2025, 11:36:49 PM
What the SSPX USED TO say, and what the Resistance continues to say, is exactly what Archbishop Lefebvre, the guide given us by Providence, concluded; and that is, that when we look into the theology, the problem is not as simple as we might have thought, and that it is a good presumption that the man held to be Pope by the Church is the Pope, and that we should continue to pray for him as Pope. At the same time, it is clear (to all except the Neo-SSPX) that, as the Archbishop said: "It is a strict duty for every priest wanting to remain Catholic to separate himself from this Conciliar Church for as long as it does not rediscover the Tradition of the Church and of the Catholic Faith".

To "tell people to research the issue with an open mind" would only cause unnecessary confusion, chaos and division. In practice, it has also led to Catholics isolating themselves from the Mass and the sacraments. We are not meant to be theologians, let alone solve disputed theological questions that the Church has not pronounced upon. Follow the guide God gave us. It's worked well for all these years, and it will continue to keep us safe until Rome re-crowns Our Lord Jesus Christ as King.

Sean has done a good deal of good for the Catholic cause. May God and Our Lady keep him and his family safe. Let us pray for him.

My position exactly.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Stubborn on July 26, 2025, 06:02:52 AM
Why do you even care?

Is your life so empty that you need Sean to fill it?
Why do you care if I care or not? 

Is your life so empty that you need me to fill it?
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 26, 2025, 06:13:15 AM
I am loyal to my deserving friends.

You don't fill my life. You fill me with disgust.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Ladislaus on July 26, 2025, 07:13:15 AM
So ... I stopped posting here largely for this reason, that this board has become an open forum for slander and character assassination.

Until Sean Johnson proves otherwise, regarding his change of position ... we give him the benefit of the doubt that he's sincere.  I do not see him excoriating those who do not agree with him, other than the neo-SSPX, but then he's been doing that for decades.

This is the same kind of thing I objected to when it was being done to Archbishop Vigano (the Satanic sun-worshipping Mason who faked his conversion to ... do not sure what), to Shia Labeouf (fake conversion), to many others.

If ANYONE would have a bone to pick with Sean, it would be I ... since at one point he got so furious with me for simply having quoted Archbishop Lefebvre that he wasn't completely opposed to sedevacantism that he called me a sodomite.

But none of us can cast stones.  We've all lost our cool out of frustration here or there.

Having been one of Sean's greatest adversaries on a number of points, I welcome him aboard.  Then, even if he were to change back to his prior view, then no hard feelings there either.  I'm going to assume the best until I have solid evidence to the contrary or there's some potential for harm being done, but until then we extend to Sean the charity that we are obliged to have toward all.

I pray that God does not remember my past sins and transgressions as some people here won't forgive for Archbishop Vigano, Sha Labeour, or Sean Johnson ... or even Mr. Keyboard Man (not sure what happened there), who was being raked over the coals for some failings of his in the past, without any context ... and without establishing any relevance for how it affected the allegations he was making.  I can't dare hold anyone's past against him, since I would most certainly then deserve to be cast into the deepest pits of Hell.

Just because +Vigano was a high-ranking member of the Conciliar Church for years, some won't forgive him and take every opportunity to slander him.  What of St. Paul?  He was putting Christians to death.  Now, if someone had AT LEAST some kind of credible cui bono regarding what harm +Vigano might be doing in faking a conversion to Tradition, I'm all ears.  But no one has provided a shred of evidence.  That reminds me of those who used to accuse +Lefebvre of being controlled opposition.  What did he accomplish thereby?  Were it not for him, the Traditional movement would be dead, no Ecclesia Dei groups, no sedevacantists (most of whom started out with him, etc. -- naturally speaking, of course, since God could then have raised someone else up.  I believe Father Leo Carley, whom I have the great blessing to know, going on 91, is one of the last original ORCM priests left, and he's still offering daily Mass, where you can set your watch to when he goes into the Confessional, starts Mass, etc. ... twice on Holy Days, and he still drives nearly 2 hours to WV every Sunday to care for about a dozen souls there.  But without +Lefebvre, that would be the state of Traditional Catholicism.

There's also this slander against so-called flip-floppers, where sometimes, especially in the political arena, that could be considered a sign of insincerity.  But in the current Crisis, where everyone's confused ... I see it as a great sign of intellectual honesty, where someone is willing to admit, even if implicitly ... yeah, you know what, I was wrong.  I have more respect for the "flip-floppers" than for those who have remained intransigient in their position for decades, since to me it doesn't necessarily prove that they've been right all these years, but most likely just that they've been very hard-headed.

In any case, we give Sean every benefit of the doubt ... unless he proves otherwise and we have some legitimate criticism to make of him.  Other than that, I, his greatest nemesis here for years, hold no grudges whatsoever and welcome him aboad, and then if he goes off in some other direction, I wish him all the best.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Stubborn on July 26, 2025, 09:13:05 AM
I am loyal to my deserving friends.

You don't fill my life. You fill me with disgust.
You call virtue signaling loyalty, ok.
 It might be best for you if you stick to posting and reading only about jooz as I never or rarely post in those threads.
 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Mark 79 on July 26, 2025, 12:43:06 PM
You call virtue signaling loyalty, ok.
 It might be best for you if you stick to posting and reading only about jooz as I never or rarely post in those threads.
 

As if your exalted intelligence is such a threat to my inadequate pea brain that I should avoid you???

:laugh2::laugh1::jester::facepalm:

Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Incredulous on July 26, 2025, 09:33:51 PM


This is the same kind of thing I objected to when it was being done to Archbishop Vigano (the Satanic sun-worshipping Mason who faked his conversion to ... do not sure what), to Shia Labeouf (fake conversion), to many others.


Oh yes, we know... you're a great promoter of Archbishop Vigano's trad conversion :incense:

It was miraculous right?  And then he fled from evil Rome for sanctuary with the help of (2) Opus Dei Luminaries :laugh1:

Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Incredulous on July 26, 2025, 09:34:16 PM



BTW, does anyone know if Sean Johnson still corresponding with Archbishop Vigano?

In context to +W and the SSPX Resistance, that would have one meaning. 

In context to the SSPV, it would have a totally different implication.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 03:00:15 PM
I didn't agree with Sean about everything when he was on here but I do have a lot of respect for all the research he has done over the years for the traditional movement and am glad to hear that he has a valid place to go to Mass.  I remember traveling to his area right around the time the priest change was about to happen (novus ordo not conditionally ordained priest) for their parish.  He was able to confirm for us that it hadn't happened yet, but I think that it happened within a few months after we were there.  I was grateful to hear that he and his family are well and he seems to have taken a large dose of humility in his experiences recently. May God bless him and his family.  :pray: 
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Minnesota on July 31, 2025, 10:37:56 PM
So ... I stopped posting here largely for this reason, that this board has become an open forum for slander and character assassination.

Until Sean Johnson proves otherwise, regarding his change of position ... we give him the benefit of the doubt that he's sincere.  I do not see him excoriating those who do not agree with him, other than the neo-SSPX, but then he's been doing that for decades.

This is the same kind of thing I objected to when it was being done to Archbishop Vigano (the Satanic sun-worshipping Mason who faked his conversion to ... do not sure what), to Shia Labeouf (fake conversion), to many others.

If ANYONE would have a bone to pick with Sean, it would be I ... since at one point he got so furious with me for simply having quoted Archbishop Lefebvre that he wasn't completely opposed to sedevacantism that he called me a sodomite.

But none of us can cast stones.  We've all lost our cool out of frustration here or there.

Having been one of Sean's greatest adversaries on a number of points, I welcome him aboard.  Then, even if he were to change back to his prior view, then no hard feelings there either.  I'm going to assume the best until I have solid evidence to the contrary or there's some potential for harm being done, but until then we extend to Sean the charity that we are obliged to have toward all.

I pray that God does not remember my past sins and transgressions as some people here won't forgive for Archbishop Vigano, Sha Labeour, or Sean Johnson ... or even Mr. Keyboard Man (not sure what happened there), who was being raked over the coals for some failings of his in the past, without any context ... and without establishing any relevance for how it affected the allegations he was making.  I can't dare hold anyone's past against him, since I would most certainly then deserve to be cast into the deepest pits of Hell.

Just because +Vigano was a high-ranking member of the Conciliar Church for years, some won't forgive him and take every opportunity to slander him.  What of St. Paul?  He was putting Christians to death.  Now, if someone had AT LEAST some kind of credible cui bono regarding what harm +Vigano might be doing in faking a conversion to Tradition, I'm all ears.  But no one has provided a shred of evidence.  That reminds me of those who used to accuse +Lefebvre of being controlled opposition.  What did he accomplish thereby?  Were it not for him, the Traditional movement would be dead, no Ecclesia Dei groups, no sedevacantists (most of whom started out with him, etc. -- naturally speaking, of course, since God could then have raised someone else up.  I believe Father Leo Carley, whom I have the great blessing to know, going on 91, is one of the last original ORCM priests left, and he's still offering daily Mass, where you can set your watch to when he goes into the Confessional, starts Mass, etc. ... twice on Holy Days, and he still drives nearly 2 hours to WV every Sunday to care for about a dozen souls there.  But without +Lefebvre, that would be the state of Traditional Catholicism.

There's also this slander against so-called flip-floppers, where sometimes, especially in the political arena, that could be considered a sign of insincerity.  But in the current Crisis, where everyone's confused ... I see it as a great sign of intellectual honesty, where someone is willing to admit, even if implicitly ... yeah, you know what, I was wrong.  I have more respect for the "flip-floppers" than for those who have remained intransigient in their position for decades, since to me it doesn't necessarily prove that they've been right all these years, but most likely just that they've been very hard-headed.

In any case, we give Sean every benefit of the doubt ... unless he proves otherwise and we have some legitimate criticism to make of him.  Other than that, I, his greatest nemesis here for years, hold no grudges whatsoever and welcome him aboad, and then if he goes off in some other direction, I wish him all the best.
Very, very well put. Thank you, Laszlo.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: LaramieHirsch on August 01, 2025, 10:15:17 AM
Couldn't care less about what this pompous, arrogant, condescending blow bag thinks about anything.
 

Ah! Speaking of pompous, arrogant blow bags, I've started writing again, too.


https://theweltgeist.substack.com/publish/posts/detail/169787594?referrer=%2Fpublish%2Fposts%2Fpublished (https://theweltgeist.substack.com/publish/posts/detail/169787594?referrer=%2Fpublish%2Fposts%2Fpublished)
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Gray2023 on August 06, 2025, 03:47:30 PM
Why am I not surprised that a person with her own emotional problems finds discord entertaining?
Not that it really matters, but I feel the need to explain myself.  People have biases and then judge accordingly, that is just human nature.

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The reason I put the popcorn guy on the Pax/Mark (debate? fight? emotional discord?) was because both Pax and Mark (more so than most on this forum) are ones that like to try to teach me things in public.  I could reference their posts, but I won't bore you.  They were discussing Sean Johnson, whose last 4 posts were (mean?, funny?, judgemental?, entertaining?) about me, so I just found the whole thing interesting.

As for my "emotional problems"  I am not sure anyone can judge anyone else without knowing them personally (in real life).

And just so people know I have know hard feelings toward Sean Johnson, Pax Vobis, or Mark 79. Life happens.  God uses people to make points, you learn and move on or you ignore them.

Why did I bring this up now and not earlier? Because it has been rattling around in my head and this is the way I make it stop. :cowboy:
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on August 06, 2025, 04:01:16 PM
People have biases and then judge accordingly, that is just human nature.
Many judgements are based on facts, not biases. 

To summarize all judgements as originating from biases (instead of common sense, or truth) is *another* lie by Big Media, which you have swallowed. 

This lie also contradicts Divine Truth, and succeeds in subverting the truth that people are born with the moral law written on their hearts, by God, and thus, subverts the idea of catholic common sense.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Gray2023 on August 06, 2025, 04:38:50 PM
Many judgements are based on facts, not biases. 

To summarize all judgements as originating from biases (instead of common sense, or truth) is *another* lie by Big Media, which you have swallowed. 

This lie also contradicts Divine Truth, and succeeds in subverting the truth that people are born with the moral law written on their hearts, by God, and thus, subverts the idea of catholic common sense.
I meant emotional biases in this case.  Does that change anything?
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Pax Vobis on August 06, 2025, 04:42:41 PM
I meant emotional biases in this case.  Does that change anything?
Nope.  Another Big Media lie.
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: LaramieHirsch on August 06, 2025, 04:56:35 PM
Bah. I pasted the wrong link.

Here:

https://theweltgeist.substack.com (https://theweltgeist.substack.com/)
Title: Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
Post by: Gray2023 on August 06, 2025, 05:45:25 PM
Nope.  Another Big Media lie.
Emotional reactions?