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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2025, 06:20:22 PM »
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    • B. My Position Until Recently
    ...Firstly, there was my SSPX indoctrination (social and doctrinal). 
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    Offline Angelus

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #16 on: July 24, 2025, 06:23:53 PM »
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    • Sean is humbly seeking the Truth. Good man. May God reward him.
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    Offline Pax Vobis

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #17 on: July 24, 2025, 06:29:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Angelus on July 24, 2025, 06:23:53 PM
    Sean is humbly seeking the Truth. Good man. May God reward him.
    Sean used to chastise sedes, because he was close-minded.  Now he's going to chastise the sspx for the same reason.  Has nothing to do with humility.
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #18 on: July 24, 2025, 11:32:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 24, 2025, 06:29:41 PM
    Sean used to chastise sedes, because he was close-minded.  Now he's going to chastise the sspx for the same reason.  Has nothing to do with humility.

    O Paragon of Humility, May you receive at His Judgment Seat the same forgiveness you display here.
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    Offline Pax Vobis

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #19 on: July 24, 2025, 11:56:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on July 24, 2025, 11:32:39 PM
    O Paragon of Humility, May you receive at His Judgment Seat the same forgiveness you display here.
    Has nothing to do with forgiveness.  Sean is now disparaging the sspx, saying they “indoctrinated” him.  His own words.

    Instead of blaming the sspx, he should blame himself for his own stubbornness.  How many years was he on this site and he rejected any/all civil discussions of sedeism, in its many forms?  He wouldn’t even consider it a possibility.  Thats on him, not the sspx. 

    I don’t care what Sean believes.  But if he’s going to make himself a public figure, then I’ll comment on his public opinions.  He can be R&R or Sede or neither.  I think he’s a good-natured guy, but his thought process is too extreme.  His 180 from R&R to sedeism is already turning into the same issue as before - a lack of nuance.  All or nothing.  Thats never good.   Not in matters of opinion. 
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #20 on: July 24, 2025, 11:58:18 PM »
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    • O Paragon of Humility, May you receive at His Judgment Seat the same forgiveness and rewarded for your humility you display here.
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #21 on: July 25, 2025, 12:01:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 24, 2025, 11:56:05 PM
    I don’t care what Sean believes.  But if he’s going to make himself a public figure, then I’ll comment on his public opinions.  …

    I see. You deride him because you "don't care."
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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #22 on: July 25, 2025, 12:07:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 12:01:58 AM
    I see. You deride him because you "don't care."
    I am deriding his opinions and his expression of such, which 9 times out of 10, he did so with a lack of distinctions.  Sedeism was 100% wrong.  Now it’s 100% right.  Anyone who tried to have a reasonable objection was chastised.  Now he’s chastising the sspx/R&R.  Nothings changed.  Same ol’ Sean.  That’s the point.
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #23 on: July 25, 2025, 12:12:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 12:07:55 AM
    I am deriding his opinions and his expression of such, which 9 times out of 10, he did so with a lack of distinctions.  Sedeism was 100% wrong.  Now it’s 100% right.  Anyone who tried to have a reasonable objection was chastised.  Now he’s chastising the sspx/R&R.  Nothings changed.  Same ol’ Sean.  That’s the point.
    Because I care… :laugh2:… You are a pompous self-impressed font of worthless opinions.
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    Offline Stubborn

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #24 on: July 25, 2025, 07:08:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 25, 2025, 12:07:55 AM
    I am deriding his opinions and his expression of such, which 9 times out of 10, he did so with a lack of distinctions.  Sedeism was 100% wrong.  Now it’s 100% right.  Anyone who tried to have a reasonable objection was chastised.  Now he’s chastising the sspx/R&R.  Nothings changed.  Same ol’ Sean.  That’s the point.
    Sean is like a speeding bullet - never takes time to check out the scenery.  I always liked him though, even when he was a jerk to me lol

    But you're right Pax re: "Putting emphasis on things which aren’t essential (ie R&R vs Sede)." 

    I have never understood the need to make the opinion so all important essential.
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    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #25 on: July 25, 2025, 08:11:52 AM »
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    • Such brave and honorable "men" to persist in insulting someone who is not present.

    What will men say of you when you are gone?
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    Offline Mr G

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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #26 on: July 25, 2025, 08:54:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 24, 2025, 11:56:05 PM
     His 180 from R&R to sedeism is already turning into the same issue as before - a lack of nuance.  All or nothing. 
    Actually, his position is not "all or nothing", as his position is that of Fr. Jenkins and the SSPV, sede-doubtist. It is very close to the Resistance position in that they have nothing to do with the Conciliar hierarchy, unlike the SSPX which has some relations with them. Sean and the SSPV may have a strong doubt if Pope Leo is truly the Pope but they are not claiming it as a 100% fact.
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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #27 on: July 25, 2025, 09:06:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on July 25, 2025, 12:01:58 AM
    I see. You deride him because you "don't care."
    :facepalm:  Taking what I said out of context.  You’re now blindly defending Sean because he’s on your “Sede team”. 

    The point is, both R&R and Sedeism are OPINIONS.  Both make good points, both have limitations.  “I don’t care” which side Sean (or anyone else picks) because neither side is doctrinal and neither side is heretical.  

    If I do care, it’s about being extreme and dogmatic about either.  Sean was (wrongly) dogmatic about R&R and now he seems to be dogmatic about Sedeism.  Being dogmatic about either is illogical and contrary to catholic theolgy.  
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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #28 on: July 25, 2025, 09:14:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on July 25, 2025, 08:54:38 AM
    Actually, his position is not "all or nothing", as his position is that of Fr. Jenkins and the SSPV, sede-doubtist. It is very close to the Resistance position in that they have nothing to do with the Conciliar hierarchy, unlike the SSPX which has some relations with them. Sean and the SSPV may have a strong doubt if Pope Leo is truly the Pope but they are not claiming it as a 100% fact.
    Not true.  You can claim something isn’t a fact DIRECTLY but if you consistently argue that “the other side” is wrong, you are INDIRECTLY IMPLYING that your side is factual.  

    If you truly believe that your side is only probable (and not fact) then there shouldn’t be ANY criticism of a contrary position, as the other positions COULD be correct.  That’s logic.  

    But some feign false humility by asserting probability while at the same time treating other views as false, which means their own is not just probable but factual.  You can’t have it both ways. 
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    Re: Sean Johnson started another blog
    « Reply #29 on: July 25, 2025, 09:20:21 AM »
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    • There are different levels of certitude regarding the truth of a proposition:

    1. Ignorance
    2. Doubt
    3. Opinion
    4. Moral
    5. Physical
    6. Metaphysical

    The SSPV fall into the areas of doubt and opinion.  In a recent episode of What Catholics Believe, if I recall correctly, Fr. Jenkins himself expressed that it was his opinion that Jorge Bergoglio was not pope. 
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