Agobard said in another thread:Whenever anyone is making a good point, you know someone will come and say "It's the Jesuits!!!"
I have said that... I think you are subtly mocking me, Agobard!
This thread is a response to your comment.
Let me state it in writing: I believe Father Feeney and the baptism of desire nonsense could very well be part of a Jesuit plot, because it has completely distracted people from the real EENS heresy.
Think about it. The weak EENS position, that you can be saved in any religion but not by that religion, that you can be saved as a Jєω or Muslim, began to really gain steam with Jesuits ( who have had many Jєωs in their ranks ); and the extreme far-right EENS position also began with Father Feeney, a Jesuit. But the moderate and
true EENS position of Aquinas, Augustine and almost every saint is entirely forgotten!
This did not happen by accident, I'm sorry.
The Feeneyites are a phenomenon. I've seen how they operate. They dangle their "friendship" in front of you like a carrot on a stick. "Just believe this... Just believe this... You can be part of our special club." There is a sadomasochistic element to their attitude that is anything but godly. They abuse people with the cry of "Heretic!" and then, when the victim can take no more and joins their ranks, they smother him with kisses and affection. He becomes "one of the chosen." But this is not based on truth; it is based on psychological abuse. They are like the Scientologists of Catholicism.
There is some kind of mentality they have tapped into, the way the Jansenists did -- a pseudo-righteous mentality that is an overreaction to VII. It returns people to an imaginary la-la-land version of the primitive Church, purified of all evils.
Here God is rigid, stern and perfectly just, according to their theories. This makes them, in turn, feel rigid, stern and perfectly just. They have no idea how blinded they are by pride, because they think their pride is
justice. This is what is frightening.
The problem is that these puffed-up individuals pretend to know God better than anyone else, saying that God will get all His chosen to the baptismal font -- this is YOUR THEORY. Many others have disagreed. How do you know God does this, or wants to do this?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not some sentimentalist who says "Hey, who knows the mind of God, He can do whatever He wants, He can save Jєωs." No. He won't save unconverted Jєωs because this was decreed by Boniface VIII. However, despite the Feeneyites' attempts to twist the words of decrees, the Church has NEVER abolished baptism of desire. Not one decree forbids it. Even if certain Catholics believed you had to be baptized to be saved, no one of any prominence in the last 1,500 years, until Father Feeney, who was about as reliable as Judas, has said BoD was an actual heresy.