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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Schiavo Again
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2012, 11:08:31 AM »
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The reality of all of this is that You and others, still wont address any real pertinant issues that I brought forth, which doesnt surprise me, as youre Cowards.


While you are welcome to this opinion, it is false.  We've gone over this issue many times before you were here.  It has been discussed in depth and in detail both here and elsewhere.  I, for one, simply have little interest in reliving a hot-button issue the repeated discussion of which does little more than get people unnecessarily and unprofitably fired up -- which is clearly happening in your case.  If you prefer to see us as cowards, so be it.  Perhaps your time would be put to better use in another pursuit or on another forum?

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Ive read your posts Mr. Gladius, and come to the conclusion that You are a  Judas....doing his work, not for money but for terrible pride and ego, the devils work.  
As I see it, you are a betrayer, a gossip telling liar,  terrible sinner and overall evil wicked person, and should be excommunicated for your calumny.


Again, you are welcome to your opinion and I shan't enter into an exchange about it at this time or in this thread.  You are not the first to say such things to me; it is very likely that you will not be the last.  Perhaps some of what you say is true; perhaps none of it is.  That said, it is absolutely certain that I a sinner and a terrible one, but that is something I address with God, who alone is able to help me in that regard.  Pax tecuм.

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You are a sad and pathetic man, Gladius.  It is Sunday, and that is the Nicst thing that I can say to you and about you.  


It IS Sunday and I wish you and yours a peaceful, spiritually-profitable one, your feelings about me aside.

Schiavo Again
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2012, 11:12:23 AM »
Quote from: gladius_veritatis
Quote from: JohnChrysostom
The reality of all of this is that You and others, still wont address any real pertinant issues that I brought forth, which doesnt surprise me, as youre Cowards.


While you are welcome to this opinion, it is false.  We've gone over this issue many times before you were here.  It has been discussed in depth and in detail both here and elsewhere.  I, for one, simply have little interest in reliving a hot-button issue the repeated discussion of which does little more than get people unnecessarily and unprofitably fired up -- which is clearly happening in your case.  If you prefer to see us as cowards, so be it.  Perhaps your time would be put to better use in another pursuit or on another forum?

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Ive read your posts Mr. Gladius, and come to the conclusion that You are a  Judas....doing his work, not for money but for terrible pride and ego, the devils work.  
As I see it, you are a betrayer, a gossip telling liar,  terrible sinner and overall evil wicked person, and should be excommunicated for your calumny.


Again, you are welcome to your opinion and I shan't enter into an exchange about it at this time or in this thread.  You are not the first to say such things to me; it is very likely that you will not be the last.  Perhaps some of what you say is true; perhaps none of it is.  That said, it is absolutely certain that I a sinner and a terrible one, but that is something I address with God, who alone is able to help me in that regard.  Pax tecuм.

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You are a sad and pathetic man, Gladius.  It is Sunday, and that is the Nicst thing that I can say to you and about you.  


It IS Sunday and I wish you and yours a peaceful, spiritually-profitable one, your feelings about me aside.


Still wont address my issues, the real issues, like her explicit directives TO 3 Family Members to NOT be on and machines for life support.

Now you call it reliving a hot button?  For GODs sake man, it was her Wish, and it was never mentioned here on this forum, or in any media among the pro lifers that dont mind killing millions of brown people, but took issue with Schiavo.

I cant debate facts, facts are not debatable.

Ive seen you in action here on this forum Mr Gladius.
Your actions make Saul Alinsky and Bella Dodd blush.


Offline gladius_veritatis

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Schiavo Again
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2012, 11:27:36 AM »
John,

I think we are agreed that neither your opinion of me as a man nor my opinion of Fr C as a man has anything to do with the topic that is the focus of this thread.  You think I am wrong; I think he is wrong.  C'est la vie.

If you and others wish to discuss this case, that is your and their prerogative.  I have already done so and do not feel the need to do so again.  Conclude from that whatever you wish.  For my part, sir, I wish you well.

Schiavo Again
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2012, 11:47:32 AM »
Why are we all wasting time on John, who violates forum rules with his uncharitable behavior? Just leave him to himself and ignore him.

Schiavo Again
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2012, 11:54:41 AM »
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John,

I think we are agreed that neither your opinion of me as a man nor my opinion of Fr C as a man has anything to do with the topic that is the focus of this thread.  You think I am wrong; I think he is wrong.  C'est la vie.

If you and others wish to discuss this case, that is your and their prerogative.  I have already done so and do not feel the need to do so again.  Conclude from that whatever you wish.  For my part, sir, I wish you well.


Actually I think it has everything to do with this thread. Almost anyway.

This thread is about Ego, Pride, Vanity and denigrating a Priest who had an educated opinion based on years of training learned At the SPPX Seminary, that others here disagreed with, and that became the battle cry to rally the posse and smear away.

Life by means of machinery is a question we all ponder and make. Its Not necessarily GODLY, and is not morally obligatory.
It is not about right or wrong, but moral and immoral according TO GOD's law, facts and human dignity according to ones wishes and directives to family members.
I dont wish to ever have my life sustained via machinery, Any machinery and gave my family that directive.
I dont expect my parents to intervene and usurp my wifes role if they disagree with her, if she becomes a sinner, or makes poor life decisions.


The only issue that I can see any sane merit, and one not discussed, is whether one suspends life provided BY machinery,  ONCE the machinery is the viable and only means of support, and has already been given.  
However, that too, went against Ms. Schiavos directives and wishes.




Mr. Gladius,
You worked tirelessly in trying to destroy an entire Parish, one where people made life decisions to travel interstate, move and relocate their lives and careers.
You aired dirty laundry publically, (some perhaps true but most not true), only to make a point and to spite a man that refused to hire you, and forbid your presence, and for no other reason than that, you worked unsuccessfully to destroy that man and that Parish.

Maybe GOD can forgive you, but I cannot.  Anyone that would do such a thing is a wicked and vile person, that I cannot call a man.
I too wish you well, in the same sense I wished Judas well, on his road to Hell.
May GOD have mercy on you, for the damage you caused to a Priest that has worked trielessly to defend our Faith,  our Mass, to offer Sacraments, to give his life for Trads.
If anyone were to ever do such a thing to any Parish, in any Rite, any affiliation whether Sede, SPPX, SPPV, Independent, Feenyite et al, that person is abomitable.