Author Topic: Schiavo Again (Read 18597 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #70 on:** April 23, 2012, 01:38:25 PM »

Quote from: Canute

My point is that the quote from Fr. Stepanich posted by SJB doesn't address the exact question that Cupertino asked:

I understand and understood your point. I was making a separate point, not responding to your own. No biggie...

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Cupertino may be on to something very important there.

He may be. I suppose it is possible that we will all find out as things progress.

SJB · « **Reply #71 on:** April 23, 2012, 03:41:54 PM »

Quote from: Cupertino

Quote from: Canute
To repeat:

"Now, what do you say, SJB, to the question whether Terry Schiavo was capable (without any artificial means of tube feeding), of getting enough hydration per day to prevent inevitable dehydration, as well as enough nutrition?"

Indeed.

Your question is directed at what Raoul76 said. Ask him to explain it.

Now the very strange JohnC character has quoted Fr. Iscara (not understanding what he was quoting, apparently), and here he is once again:

Quote from: Fr. Iscara

To counter these conclusions, we are convinced that the provision of food and fluids is not simply —or strictly — "medical care," but the minimum care that must be provided for the sick, whatever their medical condition. All beings need food and water to live, but such nourishment by itself does not heal or cure disease. In consequence, to stop feeding the permanently unconscious patient is not to withdraw from the battle against illness, but simply to withhold the nourishment that sustains all life.

Moreover, to withdraw the artificial provision of food and fluids is not simply "to allow the patient to die" : what we are doing is not to cease a treatment against disease, but to withdraw what is essential to sustain the life of every human being, either healthy or ill. Death will happen, not because of the illness, but because of our omission to provide adequate nutrition and hydration.

SJB · « **Reply #72 on:** April 23, 2012, 03:53:12 PM »

Quote from: Cupertino

Quote from: SJB
Your question is directed at what Raoul76 said. Ask him to explain it.

If that is your true conviction, then fine, why don't you follow through with it, since in another thread I directed the equivalent to you!

I don't need to explain things I didn't say. It's irrelevant anyway.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #73 on:** April 23, 2012, 06:02:51 PM »

It has been falsely claimed on here by the poster calling himself John that Terri Schiavo's brother claimed she

wanted to not have such treatment.

This is untrue.

Terri's brother DID NOT SAY THIS.

http://www.terrisfight.org/terri-s-wish/

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Judge Greer dismisses testimony of Terri's parents, siblings, Terri's life-long girlfriend and closest friend in Florida, all testifying that Terri never made any statements regarding situations if she were to become disabled

Terri's brother Bobby and Terri's sister Suzanne are both FULL TIME pro life workers.

That is what they spend their lives doing:

http://www.terrisfight.org/meet-terri-s-family-2/

Terri's parents and brother and sister were all ignored by the court, as you would expect in this evil age.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #74 on:** April 23, 2012, 06:49:52 PM »

The poster John may have innocently made a mistake about this.

He has posted many posts in a relatively brief period. So mistakes will occur.

It may be a completely innocent mistake.

I do not know who the poster John is in real life.

I should not have phrased my post in a way that implied that the poster John had been dishonest.

It may just be a mistake made by the poster John accidentally.

I apologize to you, John.