More from same poster...

I asked the following..

"Do you think a Chapel dress code including a prohibition of pants on women is per se ridiculous?

Or does your toleration extend to letting the Chapel or Society or Trad community set their own standards for modest dress?"

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As far as the chapel prohibition question...
Yes, and yes.
Yes, it is per se ridiculous to have a "dress" code in church. And, yes, the chapels are free to do that if they wish.
These are crazy times. Many people truly have no idea what is appropriate in church, or anywhere for that matter. I believe in EXAMPLE. I don't like women in slacks (in church) any more than men in shorts. At my church we've even had some NO visitors show up in tight pants and cleavage. It makes me cringe. But I tell myself, it probably isn't their fault! God bless them! It is actually SAD! So, what a PERFECT time for catechesis, no? Set an example. They're not blind. If they come often enough, they will see how the women dress. They'll figure it out. Now, if over time they don't, then...
Our FSSP pastor gave some stern warnings from the pulpit to the women on at least two occasions over the years. He spoke of his chastity, and that of his altar boys. If a woman approached the Communion rail dressed that immodestly, he would pass them over!

Posting signs at the front door, or having busybody ushers be the dress police is many things. Smart is not one of them.
And please spare me the Padre Pio examples of him throwing women out of his church who were dressed immodestly. That, if its even true, was wrong. Saints are sinners too. Imagine the impression of the Church that some of those women took back home? How about showing them sadness of how they might be offending our Lord? Just a thought...

There's ALWAYS time to bring out the big stick. And I'm a big stick kind of guy. I just prefer to use it as a last resort when it comes to things like this.

I then said...

"So the Pope is ridiculous to have a dress code in St. Peter's?"

Where is that quote from?

"I believe in example" (but apparently not in bad example?)

It's hard to believe that genuine Traditional Catholics could have such a miserable attitude towards such simple and straightforward requirements.

This idea of putting all the responsibility on the priest for discouraging bad dress sounds like a calculated way to undermine the norms: "you're not the priest, so you can't tell me how to dress."  So much for regarding admonishment as a work of mercy.  The ushers are simply following the instructions of the priests, after all!

I really have begun to question the motives of many of the posters on these sites.  While most of the liberal attitudes are probably coming from genuine Catholics, I don't doubt for a moment there are posters with the objective of trying to subvert "trad" sites.

I googled the quote, the thread is on AQ. If what's going on at that FSSP chapel in Oklahoma is true(mocking those SSPXers who go to mass with skirts as well as those who go to confession), then anybody who does this ought to be truly ashamed of themselves for such a reprobate attitude.

On to the quote:

As far as the chapel prohibition question...
Yes, and yes.
Yes, it is per se ridiculous to have a "dress" code in church. And, yes, the chapels are free to do that if they wish.
These are crazy times. Many people truly have no idea what is appropriate in church, or anywhere for that matter. I believe in EXAMPLE. I don't like women in slacks (in church) any more than men in shorts. At my church we've even had some NO visitors show up in tight pants and cleavage. It makes me cringe. But I tell myself, it probably isn't their fault! God bless them! It is actually SAD! So, what a PERFECT time for catechesis, no? Set an example. They're not blind. If they come often enough, they will see how the women dress. They'll figure it out. Now, if over time they don't, then...
Our FSSP pastor gave some stern warnings from the pulpit to the women on at least two occasions over the years. He spoke of his chastity, and that of his altar boys. If a woman approached the Communion rail dressed that immodestly, he would pass them over!

Posting signs at the front door, or having busybody ushers be the dress police is many things. Smart is not one of them.
And please spare me the Padre Pio examples of him throwing women out of his church who were dressed immodestly. That, if its even true, was wrong. Saints are sinners too. Imagine the impression of the Church that some of those women took back home? How about showing them sadness of how they might be offending our Lord? Just a thought...

There's ALWAYS time to bring out the big stick. And I'm a big stick kind of guy. I just prefer to use it as a last resort when it comes to things like this.

This type of attitude reeks of the Protestant, "God accepts me just the way I am." Here is a news flash to the poster and to the Nouveau Trads, justification is not forensic, it is a real, actual, progressive change in the person. It is also amazing how this person abuses the "Saints and sinners" line to mean that you don't actually have to change, just come as you are. This is shear cheap grace. Sinners, does not mean that heretics, infidels, apostates, and hypocrites are welcome.

More from said genius.

A poster wrote:

I heard from a reliable source that the FSSP wanted the owner to sell the chapel to them. He said OK under 2 coditions: The NOM would NEVER be said there and the chapel would NEVER be given to the local bishop. The FSSP said "we can't promise that" and the owner said "then I won't sell" so the FSSP decided to pull out of the chapel. Can anyone corroborate or contradict this story?

He responds..

Obviously the conditions are unreasonable. While someone may prefer the Tridentine Rite, no Catholic could prohibit the NO as it is just as valid.

Sounds like a schismatic type to me. Let him take his marbles and go home.

Fortunately these types are rapidly becoming marginalized and will eventually become less relevant than the Old Catholics.

And his defense of an apparently long haired FSSP priest..

I'm not sure what's up with the haircut?

It's all a matter of style. Our Lord had long hair. That was the custom. I don't have a moral problem with a long haired priest; just look at a pic of the Cure d'Ars. I do think that the priest should try and blend in. Otherwise his hair becomes a distraction. Thus the missionaries adopted beards, longer hair etc...
Until the 1960's, long hair was a mark of eccentricity. It was common amongst the artistic set, namely classical musicians.

All the FSSP priests that I have met are VERY clean cut. Truthfully, they look like clones of the SPPX. Lets face it, tradition tends to become a lifestyle. It affects every aspect of one's life.

As far as this priest...are there any Delilahs in the congregation?
I'm just askin'...