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Offline dymphnaw

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Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2021, 07:02:55 PM »
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  • Why was his children denied communion?
    He hasn't been to Mass and is publicly talking about apostatizing.

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #16 on: May 29, 2021, 07:44:05 PM »
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  • Thanks for posting this. Poor Steve needs to shut it all off and be alone with God.  :pray:
    Yes. You are right.   :pray:
    May God bless you and keep you
    +RIP 11/14/25
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.


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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #17 on: May 29, 2021, 07:44:42 PM »
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  • Many communists and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs were entering the seminary as early as the 1930s. Bella Dodd told this to Venerable Archbishop Sheen when she converted.  The Soviets had many plants in the seminary during this period.

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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #18 on: May 29, 2021, 07:49:04 PM »
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  • Many priests build these cults around themselves.  Many are in fact drawn to the priesthood because they were failures in the world and in this way can feel as if they're bigshots.  They revel in the thought of people walking around bowing their heads as they pass.

    Those are the ones that fall the hardest.

    We need to pray for them.  And sometimes charity even requires that people tell them off to snap them out of this self-worship.
    (Sorry. That was thumbs up; not down. )
    May God bless you and keep you
    +RIP 11/14/25
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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #19 on: May 29, 2021, 07:52:43 PM »
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  • I wish I could give some thumbs up, but my button seems to be broken.  :laugh1:


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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #20 on: May 29, 2021, 07:54:38 PM »
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  • He hasn't been to Mass and is publicly talking about apostatizing.

    I didn't see any talk of apostasy.  In terms of not going to Mass, it's because half the place was stuck in a parish hall having to watch a livestream of the Mass.  So at that point, why bother to show up there, when you can watch the stream at home?  NO was probably prohibiting Communion back then also.  Even then he didn't say he wasn't going at all, just "not enough" for the priest's liking ... whatever that means.

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    But somehow, livestreaming from home with the bishop’s permission instead of livestreaming from the parish hall makes you a bad Catholic.


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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #21 on: May 29, 2021, 08:58:00 PM »
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  • So a newborn is denied Baptism because the baby isnt catechized.  Or deny sacrament of Holy Communion to a child when they are handing out Holy Communion to pro abortion, pro ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ politicians.

    The Pope and his peers are poorly catechized.  
    So true. 

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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #22 on: May 29, 2021, 11:29:20 PM »
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  • Steve's turmoil is caused by a continuation of what brought him here, an excessive guilt-driven need to worship priests.

    Let it out, Steve, and just repeat this:  "This priest sucks." and/or "This is a crappy priest."

    Until you can embrace this as a legitimate judgment, you'll keep torturing yourself with guilt about feeling that way.

    But truth is truth.

    We've had crappy priests since time immemorial, with Judas himself at the Last Supper.

    Once you can get past this passive-aggressive repression and part feeling sorry for yourself (acting victim), and just embrace the truth that "This priest sucks.", you're not going to get over it and have a chance to heal.

    Newsflash.  Many priests suck, and they sucked long before this Crisis.

    Until you get past the feelings of guilt, then you can actually have pity for these crappy priests and pray for them.

    Until then you're going to remain wound up like this

    So the first step to healing is admit that you've been wronged and that his behavior was unacceptable.  There's part of you trying to let this out, but part of you that's still repressing it, causing your turmoil.  Let it out and just admit it.

    I once witnessed a Trad priest turn down a lady who was desperately asking for him to hear her confession, and seemed in urgent need of it, because ... I kid you not ... he had to go to breakfast.  I'm not going to sit here writhing with guilt for thinking that was an extremely crappy thing to do because "oh, he's a priest and we need to respect/worship our priest."

    Priests.  Newsflash.  You were not chosen to be priests FOR YOUR GLORY but for the good of the faithful.  No one deserves the priesthood and you have no right to glory in it.  If you do, you will be damned.  Yours is a life of servitude.  Just as a parents has to stay up with a sick child, you are under obligation to serve the needs of the faithful without demanding constant obsequy and adulation.

    Steve, you respect the Alter Christus who is in the priest, but you needn't worship and idolize that sinner in whom Our Lord has deigned to operate for some reason.
    ^^^
    The good that came out of the VatII explosion was that it had the same effect as a depth charge that hit its target and all the flotsam an jetsam of hidden weak/false/destructive priests rose to the surface exposing them.  Catholics well instructed in pre-VatII doctrine/catechism/liturgy were/are grateful for the good outcome of this 'evil' event.  God has allowed it for good reasons - to challenge those who are weak in their faith; to strengthen the strong fat sheep; to test us all knowing that the Church has taught us all we need to know to rise up and meet the challenge which latter can only be met with a good solid prayer-life.  Our Lord sent the Holy Ghost completing His revelation of being Trinity.  Next Sunday is the Queenship of Mary.  It is impossible to say that we have not been well-provided for during this providential drought.  
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."


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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #23 on: May 29, 2021, 11:32:53 PM »
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  • ^^^
    The good that came out of the VatII explosion was that it had the same effect as a depth charge that hit its target and all the flotsam an jetsam of hidden weak/false/destructive priests rose to the surface exposing them.  Catholics well instructed in pre-VatII doctrine/catechism/liturgy were/are grateful for the good outcome of this 'evil' event.  God has allowed it for good reasons - to challenge those who are weak in their faith; to strengthen the strong fat sheep; to test us all knowing that the Church has taught us all we need to know to rise up and meet the challenge which latter can only be met with a good solid prayer-life.  Our Lord sent the Holy Ghost completing His revelation of being Trinity.  Next Sunday is the Queenship of Mary.  It is impossible to say that we have not been well-provided for during this providential drought.  

    God has a reputation of reducing mankind to a weak remnant so that no-one can doubt for a moment that the inevitable victory was His Doing and His Doing alone!
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."

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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #24 on: May 30, 2021, 04:45:14 AM »
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  • Steve seems to be a particularly damaged person. When I think back on my Catholic past and upbringing I can only think just how rich and wonderful it was, and how much a younger person born into and raised in the post conciliar church has missed. Also, His memories seem overwhelmingly negative. Being the oldest boomer here mine are all positive. I am thankful for a faith based, not on rules and a threatening god-figure but on a loving and merciful Saviour and Friend.  My heart goes out to him and others with his experiences and worse.

    There is much truth in this quote:

    ... I have gradually come to realize that if the post-conciliar Church I grew up in isn’t really Catholicism, traditionalism isn’t either. Instead, it is an ideological mask more identifiably in the shape of true Catholicism. It is, in some respects, a long-running Live Action Roleplay — a LARP — in which participants act out what they think Catholicism looked like in “the good old days” while perpetually running down any kind of Catholicism (or Catholic who practices it) that isn’ttraditionalism. But it is essentially an affectation; an attempt to reconstruct and live within a historical context that no longer exists. Traditional Catholicism does exist, in the sense that all history exists. The Traditional Catholic liturgy exists not just historically, but even now. But traditionalism, as a “movement ...
    It’s not a historical reality, because it is merely a reaction to a modern innovation.


    There is no going back. As the song goes: onward Christian soldiers. Whatever the future holds for us, we don’t know. Nevertheless to whom shall we go? Steve needs our prayer to come through this crisis.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #25 on: May 30, 2021, 06:02:37 AM »
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  • The behaviour of this priest is the trigger that set Steve off here, but it seems that it was bound to come one way or another. Akacatholic’s latest article presents an anonymous ex-seminarian who has reached a point where he is rejecting what he believes to be the church. A similar story and there are copious examples like unto theirs. 

    On a practical level, you have to wonder why, if his child is well prepared spiritually and knowledge-wise to receive Jesus in Holy Communion, it is necessary for him to have a public event with all the fanfare that has come to be a part of a social ritual. These trimmings are nice but non-essential in the present day almost-catacomb existence in which some of us live. Similarly for the baby (yet to be born). I’m sure another priest will baptise him in the circuмstances. Not that we have to sort his problems, but that these problems are not really the issue here, it seems.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024


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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #26 on: May 30, 2021, 06:15:44 AM »
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  • These gentlemen address it towards the end of their podcast:

    https://anchor.fm/restoring-the-faith-media/episodes/Trad-Patrick-On-US-Government-on-pre-crimes--FDA-madness--the-end-of-Summorum-Pontificuм--and-Steve-Skojecs-OnePeterFive-Apostasy-e11lum2

    Skojec hasn't been going to Mass regularly, even before the plandemic. And because of this, his children haven't been properly catechized. That's the side of the story he isn't telling you.

    Pray for this man.
    Given his ongoing public questioning of the Catholic Faith, perhaps the priest thought better than to go through the motions with his children.  Perhaps he was concerned that Skojec wouldn't actually continue to bring them up Catholic (and highly doubt Skojec would mention that).  Although firmly still within the Novus Ordo walls, perhaps this FSSP priest isn't a typical NO priest who just offers sacraments willy nilly.  

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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #27 on: May 30, 2021, 07:41:40 AM »
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  • I smell a rat.

    Skojec's true colors have been revealed more and more in the last year.

    Skojec is a covidian who pushed masks and the "abortion is so remote" excuse for the experimental shot.

    He doesn't see the difference between staying home and attending Mass in an overflow room?  Um....receiving the Holy Eucharist?!  And Deo Gratias for overflowing TLM's.  Hasn't he been complaining that he is looking for a community?  

    Why is it like some great surprise that we are in the great apostasy, the Church is in eclipse etc. etc.   Our Lady told us about this over and over.  It only confirms her prophecy.  It's real.  It's true.  It's happening.  This should strengthen our faith!

    I pray for him and his family but I can't help but get the feeling that perhaps his purpose all along was to disillusion Catholics seeking Tradition and lead them astray.

    As for the problems with priests etc.  Well I personally applaud this priest for having the guts to stand up to this guy.

    Skojec would do well to learn from Saints like John of the Cross and St Francis of Assisi and others who rejoiced when persecuted by their own Church rather than lose their faith and lead others to do the same.

    Why?  Because they knew they were imitating Christ.  They fought to make it better but they didn't quit or encourage others to do so.  See the video below for more on that.

    Does Skojec have the humility to seek a second opinion from another priest regarding the state of his soul?  That is what he should do in private rather than his narcissistic public tirade.

    Great talk on rejoicing when the Church itself persecutes you:

    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #28 on: May 30, 2021, 08:38:51 AM »
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  • Given his ongoing public questioning of the Catholic Faith, perhaps the priest thought better than to go through the motions with his children.  Perhaps he was concerned that Skojec wouldn't actually continue to bring them up Catholic (and highly doubt Skojec would mention that).  Although firmly still within the Novus Ordo walls, perhaps this FSSP priest isn't a typical NO priest who just offers sacraments willy nilly.  

    I agree.

    I could be wrong, but I also don't see the FSSP priests' actions as constituting abuse. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
    « Reply #29 on: May 30, 2021, 09:28:17 AM »
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  • I smell a rat.

    Skojec's true colors have been revealed more and more in the last year.

    Skojec is a CÖVÌDian who pushed masks and the "abortion is so remote" excuse for the experimental shot.

    He doesn't see the difference between staying home and attending Mass in an overflow room?  Um....receiving the Holy Eucharist?!  And Deo Gratias for overflowing TLM's.  Hasn't he been complaining that he is looking for a community?  

    Why is it like some great surprise that we are in the great apostasy, the Church is in eclipse etc. etc.   Our Lady told us about this over and over.  It only confirms her prophecy.  It's real.  It's true.  It's happening.  This should strengthen our faith!

    I pray for him and his family but I can't help but get the feeling that perhaps his purpose all along was to disillusion Catholics seeking Tradition and lead them astray.

    As for the problems with priests etc.  Well I personally applaud this priest for having the guts to stand up to this guy.

    Skojec would do well to learn from Saints like John of the Cross and St Francis of Assisi and others who rejoiced when persecuted by their own Church rather than lose their faith and lead others to do the same.

    Why?  Because they knew they were imitating Christ.  They fought to make it better but they didn't quit or encourage others to do so.  See the video below for more on that.

    Does Skojec have the humility to seek a second opinion from another priest regarding the state of his soul?  That is what he should do in private rather than his narcissistic public tirade.

    Great talk on rejoicing when the Church itself persecutes you:

    Yes, all he's doing now is leading others to apostasy or confirming others in their apostasy.