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Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
« on: January 11, 2023, 10:22:55 PM »
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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #1 on: January 11, 2023, 10:24:42 PM »
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  • And he goes on to defend Bergolio. You can't make this stuff up. :laugh2:


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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #2 on: January 11, 2023, 10:26:19 PM »
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  • 3+ hours of listening to an ex-Freemason layman?  

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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #3 on: January 11, 2023, 10:31:37 PM »
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  • Imagine in these times going around and attacking people who simply want to practice the Catholic faith as it had
    been for nearly two thousand years while championing this monstrosity known as the conciliar church...with all of its financial corruption, open heresy, protection of child molesters, ugly architecture, open marxists, etc. etc.

    That takes a particular type of low life and morally bankrupt man

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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #4 on: January 11, 2023, 10:52:55 PM »
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  • I'm not going to waste my time on this garbage (and it's pure pseudo-theological trash).  When he was on with Dr. Sungenis, he had the temerity to claim that he wasn't in schism when he adhered to SSPX because he did not EXCLUSIVELY go to SSPX Masses.  That takes a lot of arrogance there to excuse yourself after the fact by coming up with your own adhoc defintions.

    Not only does he defend Jorge, but he's had to say that Joe Biden and Nancy Peℓσѕι are Catholics in good standing, while Traditional Catholics are not Catholics.  Talk about a diabolical inversion / perversion.  That takes a lot of wickedness and ego.  You see, most people (who are intellectually honest) when they reach such an absurdity by taking their principles to their logical conclusions will backtrack and re-examine the principles, realizing the argumentum ad absurdum.  It's what caused me to backtrack from my radically-dogmatic SVism years ago.  At one point, my principles led me to conclude that I was the only Catholic left in the world, or, in fact, even I wasn't Catholic.  So I realized how absurd that was and had to backtrack to figure out where I went wrong.  If I am trying to drive from Cleveland to Chicago but somehow end up in Houston, at some point I realize that I need to backtrack because I took a wrong turn.  NOT SALZA.  He shows up in Houston and claims that it's Chicago.

    In any case, his legalistic view of the Church is insanely ridiculous.  He has to reject the teaching of Pope St. Celestine that those who had been excommunicated by Nestorius from the moment he began to PREACH heresy (not years later when he was juridically declared deposed by the Holy See) were in no way excommunicated and excluded from the Church.  During the Arian crisis, 97-99% (depending on the estimates) of episcopal sees were taken over by Arian heretics.  Meanwhile, the orthodox Catholic bishops were going around consecrating (without any mandate from Rome) and setting up as parallel bishops in the Arian-occupied districts orthodox Catholic priests.  Acccording to Salza, the Arians were the Catholics and these anti-Arians were non-Catholics.  In fact, according to Salza, had these 97%+ of Arian bishops succeeded in getting their man on the See of Peter, then the entire Church would be Arian and all the anti-Arians would have been outside the Church and non-Catholics.  It's frothing-at-the-mouth insane, Salza.


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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #5 on: January 11, 2023, 11:02:06 PM »
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  • In the interview, Salza claims that Bergolio had no choice but to implement Traditiones Cojones because even the mainstream” Trads were being radicalized.  Yes, Salza oozes arrogance.

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    « Reply #6 on: January 11, 2023, 11:02:37 PM »
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  • Benedict Salza, a turncoat traitor to the faith whose memory will be held in ignominy by all Catholics.  History will not be kind to Salza, apologist for, and aider and abetter of, the heresiarchs destroying the Catholic Church.

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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #7 on: January 11, 2023, 11:03:31 PM »
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  • Within the first minute of the interview Salza admits he only went to the SSPX because they celebrated a beautiful liturgy, and he still kept attending the indult mass at the same time. At some point in the video he said that his SSPX pastors warned him of going to indult masses because of the danger of being poisoned with modernism, and now we know that he has returned to the conciliar church. This is why archbishop lefebvre warned the sspx faithful not to attend indult masses, because they're in danger of developing a conciliar mentality.
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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #8 on: January 11, 2023, 11:03:49 PM »
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  • In the interview, Salza claims that Bergolio had no choice but to implement Traditiones Cojones because even the mainstream” Trads were being radicalized.  Yes, Salza oozes arrogance.

    What a pig.  Even conservative Novus Ordites reject Bergoglio's heretical and schismatic screed against Sacred Tradition.

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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #9 on: January 11, 2023, 11:04:49 PM »
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  • I'm not going to waste my time on this garbage (and it's pure pseudo-theological trash).  When he was on with Dr. Sungenis, he had the temerity to claim that he wasn't in schism when he adhered to SSPX because he did not EXCLUSIVELY go to SSPX Masses.  That takes a lot of arrogance there to excuse yourself after the fact by coming up with your own adhoc defintions.

    Not only does he defend Jorge, but he's had to say that Joe Biden and Nancy Peℓσѕι are Catholics in good standing, while Traditional Catholics are not Catholics.  Talk about a diabolical inversion / perversion.  That takes a lot of wickedness and ego.  You see, most people (who are intellectually honest) when they reach such an absurdity by taking their principles to their logical conclusions will backtrack and re-examine the principles, realizing the argumentum ad absurdum.  It's what caused me to backtrack from my radically-dogmatic SVism years ago.  At one point, my principles led me to conclude that I was the only Catholic left in the world, or, in fact, even I wasn't Catholic.  So I realized how absurd that was and had to backtrack to figure out where I went wrong.  If I am trying to drive from Cleveland to Chicago but somehow end up in Houston, at some point I realize that I need to backtrack because I took a wrong turn.  NOT SALZA.  He shows up in Houston and claims that it's Chicago.

    In any case, his legalistic view of the Church is insanely ridiculous
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      He has to reject the teaching of Pope St. Celestine that those who had been excommunicated by Nestorius from the moment he began to PREACH heresy (not years later when he was juridically declared deposed by the Holy See) were in no way excommunicated and excluded from the Church.  During the Arian crisis, 97-99% (depending on the estimates) of episcopal sees were taken over by Arian heretics.  Meanwhile, the orthodox Catholic bishops were going around consecrating (without any mandate from Rome) and setting up as parallel bishops in the Arian-occupied districts orthodox Catholic priests.  Acccording to Salza, the Arians were the Catholics and these anti-Arians were non-Catholics.  In fact, according to Salza, had these 97%+ of Arian bishops succeeded in getting their man on the See of Peter, then the entire Church would be Arian and all the anti-Arians would have been outside the Church and non-Catholics.  It's frothing-at-the-mouth insane, Salza.

    That's his entire argument. You should hear the pretzel twisting as he tries to defend Assisi. 

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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #10 on: January 11, 2023, 11:06:13 PM »
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  • Within the first minute of the interview Salza admits he only went to the SSPX because they celebrated a beautiful liturgy, and he still kept attending the indult mass at the same time.

    He's demonstrably full of shit, a narcissist engaging in historical revisionism to excuse himself from the charge of schism that he's hurling at everyone else.  Salza was for many years the poster child and chief apologist for the SSPX, and rarely did you have an SSPX conference at which Salza didn't make an appearance.  He had nothing but praise for Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX in his anti-sedevacantist (anti-Catholic) hit piece.


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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #11 on: January 11, 2023, 11:07:15 PM »
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  • That's his entire argument. You should hear the pretzel twisting as he tries to defend Assisi.

    So now his principles are leading him to defend religious indifferentism, idolatry, and apostasy.

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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #12 on: January 11, 2023, 11:26:26 PM »
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  •   It's what caused me to backtrack from my radically-dogmatic SVism years ago.  At one point, my principles led me to conclude that I was the only Catholic left in the world, or, in fact, even I wasn't Catholic.  

    How did you come to this conclusion?  The vast majority of dogmatic sedes I know only think those who don't hold the sede position are not Catholic but they still consider other sedes Catholics.  

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    « Reply #13 on: January 11, 2023, 11:39:09 PM »
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  • So now his principles are leading him to defend religious indifferentism, idolatry, and apostasy.

    He says that even though Assisi was a scandal, he(JPII) doesn’t lose his ‘Jurisdiction” In other words, it’s up to the Cardinals to confront him. Salza fails to mention that most of the Cardinals found no fault with Assisi.

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    Re: Salza calls the SSPX and Sedes Schismatics
    « Reply #14 on: January 12, 2023, 05:37:15 AM »
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  • I’m insulted.  He complains about going to a rural chapel when we many of us from rural/ suburban areas have to go to a chapel in filthy dangerous city with nearby churches burnt to the ground.  Where was the chapel he was going to?  

    I guess he doesn’t like hard working rural people either.  

     If he defends Mr Bergolio, it’s because he still might be a free mason.  Who knows. Many diocesan Catholics are free masons.  

    The truth is that Vatican II is the counter church of satan.  He goes to indult while somewhere else in the diocese they  are having their sodomite friendly Mass or a parish made of old radical feminists running the parish, handing out communion while children and grandchildren are out on drugs, booze, sodomy, or satanism and witchcraft.  Good and evil can’t co exist together.   














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