Author Topic: Saint Francis Prophecy (Read 2299 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2010, 06:02:04 PM »

Yes, this is the passage with the uncanonically elected pope.

I found the following quote amazingly prescient:

"Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it ..."

V2 popes have claimed to be "Pro Life" while doing absolutely NOTHING to stop the pro-abortion politicians. In fact, good ole Ted Kennedy was given a public Christian burial and eulogy by a "prince of the Church."

roscoe · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2010, 06:29:16 PM »

It could refer to Boniface.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2010, 06:41:42 PM »

I think Kennedy had Last Rites, so it MIGHT not be quite so disheartening. But still.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2010, 06:47:25 PM »

Kennedy never retracted his position publicly, and so he should never have been buried publicly--much less given the kind of kudos that he received. Priest at his last rites should have demanded a public retraction as a condition for absolution.

I hope that God saved Kennedy's soul, but the scandal of the Church not only not excommunicating the public pro-aborts but even HONORING them is absolutely unacceptable. It would have been different if Kennedy had signed a public retraction on his deathbed.

Jamie · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2010, 08:10:37 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

I also believe that St. Francis either in this same or another prophecy spoke of an "uncanonically elected pope" -- which appears consistent with the Siri Thesis.

If the Siri thesis were true, why did he deny it and where is his successor now? I find the thesis very fascinating but these two questions seem to cast a great deal of doubt on it. That and the fact that Siri "failed to support the Traditionalist Catholic movement, that he recognized John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I and John Paul II as legitimate popes, that despite his conservatism he used the Mass according to the reformed 1970 Roman Missal and the other revised sacraments, and that he signed all of the docuмents of the Second Vatican Council."

Ladislaus · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2010, 08:29:52 PM »

Siri did not deny irregularities at the conclaves, and in fact alluded to them. He did not speak openly about it because he felt gravely bound by "the secret" (as he called it). From his perspective, he "stepped down". Objectively speaking, however, third parties might conclude that he stepped down under duress. So it's hard to say what he would have been thinking at any given point. So, if he never thought of himself as exercising papal authority, then he would not have appointed a successor, nor would he have been teaching in any other capacity than in that of a private theologian (and so therefore would not have been protected by the charism of infallibility).