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Offline Marulus Fidelis

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #460 on: May 31, 2023, 02:44:39 PM »
Quote from: Marulus Fidelis on May 31, 2023, 01:21:40 PM
As St. Thomas says, if he is incuplably ignorant he will receive the Gospel, if his ignorance is culpable he will be damned for his other sins.

It comes down to belief in Divine Providence. You actually believe that someone who is lives without mortal sin, sincerely seeking the truth would be denied it by God? If so, that's blasphemous.

Now please answer is belief in the Trinity and Incarnation obligatory pn all above the age of reason, by a necessity of means, for salvation?
Still waiting.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #461 on: May 31, 2023, 02:47:33 PM »

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but of a baptized infant reaching the age of reason.
a 3rd oxymoronic statement.  A person who has reached the age of reason is not an infant.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #462 on: May 31, 2023, 02:48:45 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 31, 2023, 02:15:29 PM
Nor can a 6-year-old be a "schismatic".  You have to adhere to a non-Catholic sect in order to be a schismatic.

So that statement contained 2 oxymorons.

No, you and Pax are the only morons.

Still waiting for an asnwer to this question:

If a 6 year-old schismatic in the state of grace is invincibly ignorant, by what means is grace forfeited (since full knowledge is necessary for the grave sin by which the grace is lost)?

Conversely, if the grace is not forfeited, how would such a one be damned?
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #463 on: May 31, 2023, 02:56:32 PM »
You aren’t answering the question:

If one is invincibly ignorant, by what means is grace forfeited (since full knowledge is necessary for the grave sin by which the grace is lost)?

Conversely, if the grace is not forfeited, how would such a one be damned?
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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #464 on: May 31, 2023, 02:58:46 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 31, 2023, 02:48:45 PM
No, you and Pax are the only morons.

His Petulance strikes again. 
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