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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #400 on: May 31, 2023, 09:40:56 AM »

True or False Pope


SSPX PAGE






Are you still rolling your eyes Sean, or can you finally see it?



https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/salza-calls-sspx-and-sedes-schismatics/msg866062/#msg866062


This is the same Salza that has gotten many good reviews by SSPX folk for his co-authored book "True or False Pope", the book that Fr. Kramer has demolished on several points.



https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/salza-calls-sspx-and-sedes-schismatics/msg866065/#msg866065




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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #401 on: May 31, 2023, 09:52:30 AM »

He's not a home aloner.

His postings going back and forth with the user Catholic Knight show him to be advancing arguments found in True or False Pope

My postings against Catholic Knight advance the arguments found in True or False Pope, and I am neither Siscoe nor Salza.

They simply did the legwork of refuting both Fr. Kramer and sedevacantism, and advanced the arguments held by all R&R who maintain +Lefebvre's resistance, and consequently, any/all SSPXers and Resistance would be apt to make the same arguments as compiled by SS.


Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #402 on: May 31, 2023, 09:53:42 AM »
One in the state of grace has the Holy Ghost inside of them.  Are you saying it's possible for one to have the Holy Ghost in their soul and yet be invincibly ignorant?  :confused: That's a contradiction.

Are you saying the Holy Ghost is expelled without sin??

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #403 on: May 31, 2023, 09:54:32 AM »

True or False Pope


SSPX PAGE



Our Statement on the Society of St. Pius X



Many have asked why we have changed our position on the SSPX, since we frequented their chapels for many years, and particularly since the Society publicly endorsed our book True or False Pope?.  To be clear, we have no personal hostility toward the SSPX and the many good men in their ranks. We also continue to attend the Traditional Mass exclusively and hold the Recognize & Resist position, properly understood.

However, our extensive study of ecclesiology and Sedevacantism led us to the inescapable conclusion that the SSPX is in the same canonical and ecclesiastical position as the Sedevacantist and other independent clergy (outside of its delegated faculties), who are not part of the Roman Catholic Church, have no juridical mission from the Church, and hence cannot lawfully exercise their priestly powers.  In fact, we were forced to recognize that the Society advances the same erroneous arguments as the Sedevacantists do, to justify their operation without mission, which is contrary to the divine law.

In the course of our study, we also realized that the SSPX embraces other critical theological errors (on the Profession of Faith, juridical mission, supplied jurisdiction, Collegiality, sacramental intention, the nature of the Church, etc.) which we are addressing in our series of articles. Because many of these errors are rooted in an erroneous understanding of the Church itself (errors in ecclesiology), they are actually graver than the Liberal errors on the Left, and that is because they lead Catholics out of the Church, outside of which there is no salvation.

It is our firm hope and prayer that the Society renounce its doctrinal errors and accepts the Church’s Profession of Faith, so that it can be reconciled with the Roman Catholic Church, and given a canonical mission to carry out its ministry lawfully. It is for this purpose that we make our position public, so that the Society’s leadership (and those who support the SSPX) will see the truth, and take the necessary steps toward achieving the long-awaited reconciliation.

Why are you posting this???