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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #395 on: May 31, 2023, 09:28:55 AM »
Quote from: trad123 on May 31, 2023, 09:22:13 AM

He's either Robert Siscoe or John Salza.

But they’re not home-aloners, as Matthew said this guy was?
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Offline trad123

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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #396 on: May 31, 2023, 09:32:43 AM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 31, 2023, 09:28:55 AM
But they’re not home-aloners, as Matthew said this guy was?


He's not a home aloner.

His postings going back and forth with the user Catholic Knight show him to be advancing arguments found in True or False Pope
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #397 on: May 31, 2023, 09:33:30 AM »
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We’re talking about an invincibly ignorant 6 uear-old in the state of grace.
One in the state of grace has the Holy Ghost inside of them.  Are you saying it's possible for one to have the Holy Ghost in their soul and yet be invincibly ignorant?  :confused: That's a contradiction.
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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #398 on: May 31, 2023, 09:35:15 AM »
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Who told you the Roman Catholic Church after V2 no longer encourages the faithful to pray for the dead?  You live in fantasy land.
The V2 church no longer has requiem masses; instead they have "celebration of life" masses.  :laugh1:  99% of every novus ordo catholic I have ever talked to, when speaking of the dead, say "Oh, they are already in heaven."  Thus, logically, why the need to pray for the dead?

The V2 church gives lip-service to doctrine, while in practice (through the protestantization of the liturgy), minimizes/contradicts such.  "As you pray" (i.e. protestant liturgy) is "how you believe" (i.e. living protestant doctrine).
 
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Offline trad123

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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #399 on: May 31, 2023, 09:36:07 AM »
Quote from: trad123 on May 31, 2023, 09:32:43 AM

He's not a home aloner.

His postings going back and forth with the user Catholic Knight show him to be advancing arguments found in True or False Pope


True or False Pope


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Our Statement on the Society of St. Pius X



Many have asked why we have changed our position on the SSPX, since we frequented their chapels for many years, and particularly since the Society publicly endorsed our book True or False Pope?.  To be clear, we have no personal hostility toward the SSPX and the many good men in their ranks. We also continue to attend the Traditional Mass exclusively and hold the Recognize & Resist position, properly understood.

However, our extensive study of ecclesiology and Sedevacantism led us to the inescapable conclusion that the SSPX is in the same canonical and ecclesiastical position as the Sedevacantist and other independent clergy (outside of its delegated faculties), who are not part of the Roman Catholic Church, have no juridical mission from the Church, and hence cannot lawfully exercise their priestly powers.  In fact, we were forced to recognize that the Society advances the same erroneous arguments as the Sedevacantists do, to justify their operation without mission, which is contrary to the divine law.

In the course of our study, we also realized that the SSPX embraces other critical theological errors (on the Profession of Faith, juridical mission, supplied jurisdiction, Collegiality, sacramental intention, the nature of the Church, etc.) which we are addressing in our series of articles. Because many of these errors are rooted in an erroneous understanding of the Church itself (errors in ecclesiology), they are actually graver than the Liberal errors on the Left, and that is because they lead Catholics out of the Church, outside of which there is no salvation.

It is our firm hope and prayer that the Society renounce its doctrinal errors and accepts the Church’s Profession of Faith, so that it can be reconciled with the Roman Catholic Church, and given a canonical mission to carry out its ministry lawfully. It is for this purpose that we make our position public, so that the Society’s leadership (and those who support the SSPX) will see the truth, and take the necessary steps toward achieving the long-awaited reconciliation.


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