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Author Topic: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?  (Read 54982 times)

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Offline Stubborn

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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2022, 08:05:24 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 23, 2022, 07:22:16 AM
So, the chief problem that some of us [sedes] have with R&R is that R&R undermines and guts the foundations of the Magisterium and the papacy, throwing the Church under the proverbial bus in order to save Bergoglio et al., to have the comfort of some clown prancing around in white vestments.
I must say that this comes right out of a comic book because it would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.

But the answer to the question posed in the title of this thread is, there is no reason to get behind any flavor of sedeism. With the grace of God and all the helps He gave us, we can live a Catholic life and die a happy death and strive to save our souls without the self inflicted burden of concerning ourselves with something we can do nothing whatsoever about other than pray daily for the pope, which is the duty of every Catholic for a reason.

Why not try doing this sometime?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2022, 08:28:23 AM »
Quote from: Stubborn on September 23, 2022, 08:05:24 AM
I must say that this comes right out of a comic book because it would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.

But the answer to the question posed in the title of this thread is, there is no reason to get behind any flavor of sedeism.

Sure, it doesn't matter to Old Catholics like yourself.  It matters to actual Catholics, though, but feel free to recuse ourself from this discussion.  What's really tragic, Stubborn, is all the Trads who have abandoned Catholicism in favor of a slight variation Old Catholicism just to keep having Bergoglio be their "pope" ... of course, a pope they ignore and who's good for nothing other than to put a picture of his smiling face in your vestibule.  But, by all means, carry on.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2022, 08:31:21 AM »
Quote from: Meg on September 23, 2022, 08:04:15 AM
This so laughable. When did Fr. Chazal say he is a sede-impoundist? And when did he ever say that anyone has to agree with his views anyway? There is no way that he would ever say that he is a sede-impoundist, and that everyone has to get behind him. How ridiculous.

He had a longer term for it, which I have abbreviated to sede-impoundist for conveniece.  So go ahead and replace sede-impoundist with "Father Chazal's position" and answer the question, instead of distracting with stupidity.
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Offline Meg

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2022, 08:43:18 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 23, 2022, 08:31:21 AM
He had a longer term for it, which I have abbreviated to sede-impoundist for conveniece.  So go ahead and replace sede-impoundist with "Father Chazal's position" and answer the question, instead of distracting with stupidity.

Don't have to answer any question. You are guilty of lying big-time about Fr. Chazal. 
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Offline HolyAngels

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2022, 08:49:40 AM »
I suppose I've perhaps mistakenly understood recognize and resist as resisting proposed/stated errors from clergy that are heterodox. Determining if a member of the clergy has fallen into apostasy is a separate matter.

Also my current thought is that Francis is an apostate.

If I'm missing something I'm certainly open to correction.





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