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Author Topic: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?  (Read 55418 times)

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Offline Meg

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2022, 10:48:19 AM »
So the "pope" not only allowed a modernist sect to occupy the Church but he championed it and led the way.  And you recognize this false antipope as the true pope of the Catholic Church (without actually being fully subject to him, of course) and you count this as a virtue?  And on top of that you think it is simple to understand how all this could be?  Wow!

I didn't say anything about the pope allowing a modernist sect to occupy the Church. I said that God allowed a modernist sect to occupy the Church. Unless perhaps you believe that the pope is supposed to be the same thing as God when he's a valid pope? But yes, the Vll popes have allowed a modernist sect to occupy the Church, but that's another subject. You didn't address the idea of God allowing a modernist sect to occupy the Church.

I'm not sure that it's considered a virtue for a Catholic to believe that there's a Pope of the Catholic Church. It may indeed be a virtue to believe as such. It's just what Catholics have always believed. Just a few days ago was the feast day of St. Linus, pope and martyr. As you know, he succeeded St. Peter. We have always had successors to St. Peter, since the beginning. For nearly two thousand years. Having a Pope is one of the main things that separates us from the protestants. 

It is simple to understand that we still believe that there's a pope, but that we are subject to God first. See Stubborn's post that precedes mine. He sums it up quite well.

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2022, 11:35:29 AM »
I'm not sure if there is a willing or unwilling blindness over the understanding of Fr. Chazel's position?
When did Catholics become the enemy and modernists friends to defend and respect?
If you don't know a fact wouldn't it be better to show good faith to Catholics?


Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2022, 12:07:30 PM »
We have always had successors to St. Peter, since the beginning. 
Many times there has been periods with no pontiff, and sometimes for years.  

Offline Meg

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #68 on: September 25, 2022, 12:12:16 PM »
Many times there has been periods with no pontiff, and sometimes for years. 

I said that there have always been successors. I didn't say anything about the periods between successors, which we know has occurred. But the periods between successors didn't occur because laymen took it upon themselves to proclaim that there was or is no pope. You are aware of that, I hope. 

Re: R&R -- why don't you get behind Father Chazal's sede-impoundism?
« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2022, 12:16:35 PM »
Meg, I presume good will on your part even if I have a different understanding of the enemy.  I hope you look on Catholics with sympathy and victims of a great crime still ongoing.