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Offline Ladislaus

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R&R: Explain why the Old Catholics were wrong.
« on: December 29, 2023, 05:06:07 PM »
R&R, please explain why the Old Catholics were wrong.  This should be interesting.

Old Catholics rejected the definition of papal infallibility because they decided it was contrary to Tradition.  Before you rely upon the notion that a Pope is infallible when solemnly defining a dogma, recall that papal infallibility was the dogma in question and thus it's a circular argument.  Pope was infallible in defining papal infallibility because papal infallibility is a dogma.  So you can't use that.

Please explain why the Old Catholics were wrong to do what they did.

Heck, the Old Catholic "Declaration of Utrecht" opens with the exact same appeal to St. Vincent of Lerins that Traditional Catholics use.
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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

Re: R&R: Explain why the Old Catholics were wrong.
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2023, 06:35:44 PM »
Would've expected this to be active but one only hears crickets.




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Offline Hank Igitur

Re: R&R: Explain why the Old Catholics were wrong.
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2023, 07:39:13 PM »
They have no logical response.
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: R&R: Explain why the Old Catholics were wrong.
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2023, 08:59:45 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 29, 2023, 05:06:07 PM
R&R, please explain why the Old Catholics were wrong.  This should be interesting.

Old Catholics rejected the definition of papal infallibility because they decided it was contrary to Tradition.  Before you rely upon the notion that a Pope is infallible when solemnly defining a dogma, recall that papal infallibility was the dogma in question and thus it's a circular argument.  Pope was infallible in defining papal infallibility because papal infallibility is a dogma.  So you can't use that.

Please explain why the Old Catholics were wrong to do what they did.

Heck, the Old Catholic "Declaration of Utrecht" opens with the exact same appeal to St. Vincent of Lerins that Traditional Catholics use.

This is one of your best posts! I’m interested in reading the responses. ;)
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Offline Plenus Venter

Re: R&R: Explain why the Old Catholics were wrong.
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2023, 03:46:30 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 29, 2023, 05:06:07 PM
R&R, please explain why the Old Catholics were wrong.  This should be interesting.

Old Catholics rejected the definition of papal infallibility because they decided it was contrary to Tradition.  Before you rely upon the notion that a Pope is infallible when solemnly defining a dogma, recall that papal infallibility was the dogma in question and thus it's a circular argument.  Pope was infallible in defining papal infallibility because papal infallibility is a dogma.  So you can't use that.

Please explain why the Old Catholics were wrong to do what they did.

Heck, the Old Catholic "Declaration of Utrecht" opens with the exact same appeal to St. Vincent of Lerins that Traditional Catholics use.
Well, it is a very novel way of explaining to us why you reject the dogma of Papal Infallibility as defined by the Church. And look at the gallery of heretics surrounding him, egging him on and upvoting his post.
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