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Offline Plenus Venter

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African Bishops React to Fiducia Supplicans
« on: January 04, 2024, 06:33:03 AM »
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  • Apologies if this has already been covered somewhere. I didn't realise that there was such vigorous resistance from the African Bishops to the Pope on this issue. We have never seen anything like this since Vatican II with so many Bishops resisting the Pope to his face, firmly opposing false obedience. That is not to whitewash all the other disorders in their NO dioceses, but it is certainly encouraging.

    This episode or Remnant Underground TV also explains a sinister EU-ACP treaty in the pipeline to enforce moral corruption in these African nations.

    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/6964-pope-abandons-africa-vatican-wokeism-supports-diabolical-eu-acp-treaty

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    Re: African Bishops React to Fiducia Supplicans
    « Reply #1 on: January 04, 2024, 06:45:19 AM »
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  • Certainly the African countries have been more "conservative" overall, but the fact that we're surprised if there's some reaction in the Novus Ordo regarding basic issues of not even moral theology but of natural law says more about how far things have gone than it is a positive development.  Many African countries have tough laws on the books against sodomy, so this is not one the Bergoglio's going to get a whole lot of traction on in Africa.  It's only in the West (US, Europe, and to a lesser extent Latin America) that the pro-sodomite agenda has been active and flourishing for the past couple of decades.

    Unfortunately, however, this Hegelian dialectic is part of how they're working the destruction of the Church.  People now look back on Wojtyla, who did uphold Catholic teaching about moral theology (by way of lip service, while doing absolutely nothing about it), as this great conservative and Traditionalist.  But in terms of dogmatic theology, Wojtyla was probably the greatest purveyor of religious indifferentism ever to claim the papal office.  And that is where the Conciliar conservatives falter every time ... even if they're orthodox in every other respect ... in imbibing "Saint" John Paul II the Great Wojtyla's religious indifferentism.


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    Re: African Bishops React to Fiducia Supplicans
    « Reply #2 on: January 04, 2024, 06:50:47 AM »
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  • resisting the Pope to his face, firmly opposing false obedience

    Yet you can't help yourself in pushing your fake non-Catholic theology.

    Catholic Encyclopedia (on the Indefectibility of the Church):
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    It is clear, too, that could the Church suffer substantial change, it would no longer be an instrument capable of accomplishing the work for which God called it in to being. He established it that it might be to all men the school of holiness. This it would cease to be if ever it could set up a false and corrupt moral standard.

    Between the official teaching of Bergoglio in Amoris Laetitia and now Fiducia Supplicans, here's another box to check off in terms of undermining the Church's indefectibility.

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    Re: African Bishops React to Fiducia Supplicans
    « Reply #3 on: January 05, 2024, 07:15:00 AM »
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  • Yet you can't help yourself in pushing your fake non-Catholic theology.

    Catholic Encyclopedia (on the Indefectibility of the Church):
    Between the official teaching of Bergoglio in Amoris Laetitia and now Fiducia Supplicans, here's another box to check off in terms of undermining the Church's indefectibility.
    I know what you're saying, and it's the same old back and forth. Is it possible to say that this is clearly not Church teaching, but private teaching of an unfaithful shepherd? I believe so. We don't have to declare him non-pope. We can leave that to the Church while continuing to pray for him and resist him. Why is that so definitely out of the question for you? Why can you not admit even a slight possibilty and withhold judgement and leave it to God and the Church? As Matthew keeps saying, if you wanted to elect one to take his place, I could understand your urgency.

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    Re: African Bishops React to Fiducia Supplicans
    « Reply #4 on: January 05, 2024, 11:43:41 AM »
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  • Apologies if this has already been covered somewhere. I didn't realise that there was such vigorous resistance from the African Bishops to the Pope on this issue. We have never seen anything like this since Vatican II with so many Bishops resisting the Pope to his face, firmly opposing false obedience. That is not to whitewash all the other disorders in their NO dioceses, but it is certainly encouraging.

    This episode or Remnant Underground TV also explains a sinister EU-ACP treaty in the pipeline to enforce moral corruption in these African nations.

    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/6964-pope-abandons-africa-vatican-wokeism-supports-diabolical-eu-acp-treaty
    I like how MM makes a call for unity at the end of the video.

    We're Catholics, not dime a dozen multi denominational protestants.
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"


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    Re: African Bishops React to Fiducia Supplicans
    « Reply #5 on: January 05, 2024, 12:33:57 PM »
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  • I like how MM makes a call for unity at the end of the video.

    We're Catholics, not dime a dozen multi denominational protestants.

    He has to unite the clans to keep his subscription base up.