Author Topic: roscoe: Please clarify (Read 3550 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2008, 02:28:16 PM »

roscoe,

It is not, imo, clear enough. What is your beef with Pius XII? That he would not issue a dogmatic statement that reaffirmed what had already been dogmatically declared three times? So what? Should Pius have catered to Fr. Feeney? Certainly not. Fr. Feeney was fighting against a real and present error, but his weapons were also erroneous (or, we might say, the way in which he wielded them was incorrect). It is the classic atmosphere for heresy where one teaching is being proclaimed in an unbalanced way so as to endanger a complementary truth, so the "champions" combat this problem by overemphasizing the complementary teaching that is in danger of being snuffed out. Both involve an overemphasis of one of two harmonious truths, leading to disaster.

I own the book you mention. It does not "save" Fr. Feeney, etc.

As for your hole, I doubt you will crawl back into it - not for more than a moment or two, anyway.

roscoe · « **Reply #6 on:** March 14, 2008, 04:52:48 PM »

Fr. Feeney was simply asking for backup in his confrontation w/ prelates who were teaching a heretical doctrine by insinuating that there might be other ways to salvation outside of Holy Church. How does this simple request amount to 'catering' to Fr. Feeney?

I hope that I am wrong about Pius XII, but his close association w/ the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ card Spellman is very damaging to his reputation if you ask me. And it is my belief that Rabbi Zolli was a Marrano--hopefully I am wrong about that also.

There are some other things I will post as soon as I come across them( if I am allowed out of my hole again that is.)

roscoe · « **Reply #7 on:** March 14, 2008, 05:11:08 PM »

While it certainly is commendable to fight Communism, there are people like JE Hoover, Roy Cohn and others who are only doing so from obscue motives. And Communism can mean different things to different people. Example--Trotskyite neo-cons will fight Stalinists. Ciao

roscoe · « **Reply #8 on:** March 14, 2008, 05:20:51 PM »

And (sorry SC) as a cardinal on a visit to US, Pacelli appeared publically w/ 33 Mason Rosenveldt-- it is a disgrace for a member of the Curia to do something like this because it implys a co-operation between Holy Church and Masonic ideology--oil and water do not mix!!!! I would like to know what Pius XI thought about that.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong about anything here.

roscoe · « **Reply #9 on:** March 14, 2008, 05:42:53 PM »

(sorry SC) On pg 214 of Popes In The Modern World, Sugrue quotes Pius XII---" For centuries the judaics have been most unjustly(?) treated and despised. It is time they were treated with justice and humanity. God wills it and the Church wills it. St Paul tells us that Judaics are our brothers . Instead of being treated as strangers, they should be welcomed as friends". Sounds pretty ecuмenical to me.

Do I have to remind this Forum that the Babylonian тαℓмυd describes the Most Holy Virgin as a'whore' and says that Jesus is roasting in Hell in a pot of semen and feces?

Just who does this Pacelli think he is? I would like to thank GV for bringing this all up as I am now beginning yo seriously wonder if Pius XII may well be an anti-pope.