Author Topic: Romes exorcist finding Bl. John Paul II effective against Satan (Read 3580 times)

andysloan · « **on:** October 22, 2014, 01:02:41 PM »

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/romes-exorcist-finding-bl.-john-paul-ii-effective-against-satan/

Happy Feast feast Day St Pope John Paul 2!

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2014, 04:02:18 PM »

The devils are pretending that JPII is effective against them in order to keep up the pretence that JPII is a saint.

ggreg · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2014, 04:07:37 PM »

Not this clown again. He is always spouting nonsense.

Father Gabriele Amorth has carried out most of his 70,000 exorcisms over the past 26 years.

Right, so he has done 3000 exorcisms per year. Or 10 per day?

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2014, 04:19:51 PM »

I do not believe it.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2014, 05:22:44 PM »

A man like John Paul II? Anthrocentric, false religion-adoring Karol Wojtyla? He is not a saint. Wojtyla is probably adored by the devils.

BTNYC · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2014, 08:13:57 PM »

Fr. Amorth also said "Medjugorje is a fortress against Satan," which strikes me as akin to saying "Hollywood is a fortress against the Jєωs."

andysloan · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2014, 09:47:45 PM »

Fr Malachi Martin affirms St John Paul 2 tried to restore the Latin Mass on equal parity with the NO.

Holy Fr Ruatolo endorses St John Paul 2

http://pelianito.stblogs.com/files/2010/08/Novena-of-surrender-to-the-will-of-God.pdf

God bless all!

andysloan · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2014, 09:54:09 PM »

"A man like John Paul II? Anthrocentric, false religion-adoring Karol Wojtyla? He is not a saint. Wojtyla is probably adored by the devils. "

What has a statement like this got to do with Roman Catholicism?

Hebrews 12:14

"Follow peace with all men, and holiness: without which no man shall see God."

Ecclesiastes 9:1

All these things have I considered in my heart, that I might carefully understand them: there are just men and wise men, and their works are in the hand of God: and yet man knoweth not whether he be worthy of love, or hatred:

I think you ought to stop speculating on the destination of St John Paul 2, arrogating a judgement to yourself that belongs to God and consider the devils who clearly have agency through you!

Matto · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2014, 10:07:05 PM »

It is a shame to see John Paul II being promoted on this forum which is supposed to be for traditional Catholics.

ggreg · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2014, 10:40:41 PM »

It is an inevitability. We live in confused times and this is a forum. All sorts of things get said in a forum.

Look on the ingredients list of any snack food and you will find a warning. "This product may contain nuts". Even packets of nuts have that warning. Clearly, human beings are pretty confused and muddled if you legally must warn them that a packet of nuts may contain nuts.

Well, Internet fora also may contain nuts. Nothing much can be done about it other than mocking them or ignoring them until their threads sink to the bottom. If one is allergic to nuts one should stay out of fora or do one's best to ignore their rantings.

One of the great things about this place is Matthew's tolerance of such ideas and, let's be fair, we all let out a brain fart occasionally don't we? It is part of the process of thinking that, occasionally, even smart people have stupid thoughts.

Surely, this is what a forum is all about. In ancient Greece I am sure there were all sorts of crazy ideas thrown into the debate and the stupider ones shot down with wit, scorn and polemic. What remains and is deemed worthy of debate and discussion, argument and counter argument is the stuff good ideas are made of.

poche · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2014, 10:43:36 PM »

Quote from: awkwardcustomer

The devils are pretending that JPII is effective against them in order to keep up the pretence that JPII is a saint.

Isn't it like those who said of Jesus, "He casts out demons by the Prince of Demons?"

Ladislaus · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2014, 09:19:31 AM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: awkwardcustomer
The devils are pretending that JPII is effective against them in order to keep up the pretence that JPII is a saint.

Isn't it like those who said of Jesus, "He casts out demons by the Prince of Demons?"

Except that in this case it's most likely true.

andysloan · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2014, 10:19:44 AM »

ggreg said:

"Well, Internet fora also may contain nuts. Nothing much can be done about it other than mocking them or ignoring them until their threads sink to the bottom. If one is allergic to nuts one should stay out of fora or do one's best to ignore their rantings. "


Proverbs 3:32

"For every mocker is an abomination to the Lord"


Ecclesiasticus 32:21

"A sinful man will flee reproof, and will find an excuse according to his will."

And CI is no longer substantively a Traditional website, as there is a large constituency of schismatics as measured by the fact they do not accept infallible canonisations and speak disgracefully against canonically legitimate popes:



Psalms 34:26

"Let them be clothed with confusion and shame, who speak great things against me.

Hence, God has given many into error and removed them from His church because of their behaviour:

"a heretic is one who either devises or follows false and new opinions, for the sake of some temporal profit, especially that he may lord and be honored above others." Therefore heresy is a species of pride rather than of unbelief. St Augustine quoted by St Thomas

and why as St Vincent Ferrer said in a sermon, that Catholics will be given over to the power of the antichrist in the time to come:



Wisdom 11:17

"That they might know that by what things a man sinneth, by the same also he is tormented."

ThomisticPhilosopher · « **Reply #13 on:** October 26, 2014, 01:00:05 AM »

Quote from: ggreg

Not this clown again. He is always spouting nonsense.

Father Gabriele Amorth has carried out most of his 70,000 exorcisms over the past 26 years.

Right, so he has done 3000 exorcisms per year. Or 10 per day?

I think that priest is deluded as to what constitutes an exorcism.

Sure every time, I pray the St. Michael the Archangel it is a mini-exorcism prayer. If I pray the Salve Regina, it is an exorcist prayer and so forth.

What we are talking about is 70,000 different thousand individuals liberated from demoniac activity. That is just a huge exaggeration. Most exorcism cases, that are truly of demonic origin can take even years to finish a single case. This guy has no idea of what he is talking about. I think he should join the Ghostbusters, but not as an exorcist. He might find the job is more suitable there, where he can fight against evil forces too.

andysloan · « **Reply #14 on:** October 26, 2014, 09:28:57 AM »

I think you will find the 170,000 refers to the number of demons cast out (see link).

Fr Amorth also bears witness to exorcisms by St Pope John Paul 2 and Pope Francis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331651/Catholic-Church-s-leading-exorcist-calls-Pope-allow-priests-perform-rite-personally-ridding-world-160-000-demons.html#ixzz2jnFpVxBs

God bless!