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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2020, 11:35:04 AM »
June 13th 1929 was the date on which Our Lady requested the consecration of Russia.

So my Catholic spidey senses suggest that something bad will happen on June 13th 2029.

Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2020, 11:52:39 AM »
June 13th 1929 was the date on which Our Lady requested the consecration of Russia.

So my Catholic spidey senses suggest that something bad will happen on June 13th 2029.
Interesting that the Wall Street Crash happened only a few months later. I've often been told that was one of the key events that set the ball in motion leading towards WW2.


Offline Stubborn

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Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2020, 01:01:23 PM »
But what about the second secret? Russia was supposed to be consecrated before WWII. Long before Roncalli, Pacem in terris, and the conciliar sect. Did Sister Lúcia inform Popes Pius XI/XII in time about their heavenly duty to consecrate Russia? And if she did, why didn't they do what was asked for? And, given that they didn't, whom do Fatimists follow? Do they follow the Pope or do they follow apocryphal private revelations?
I am not a Fatimist so I will only say the obvious - that the popes will answer for not doing as Our Blessed Mother asked.

My point is, the people who chose to follow "Roncalli, his successors, and virtually all the bishops" will also answer for abandoning the true faith for the new faith. It's a matter of people wrongfully putting authority over the faith. To say "It must be ok because the pope/priests/bishops say it's ok" might be feasible if Fr. Fenton's teaching in this matter were actually true teachings, which they aren't, but if they were, then authority over faith would be the way to go! The teaching I refer to here is the one where he teaches that the popes are always infallibly safe to follow whenever his directives are given to the whole Church. People, even trads wrongfully attribute this heresy to be a dogmatic(?) teaching of the Church.

But as it is, the people have merited for themselves the dubious opportunity to *always* be mentioned as part of the problem whenever speaking of the blame attributed to this crisis - because all of the people who follow[ed] are contributors, without the collaboration of all those people, this crisis would [have] immediately fail[ed].

     

Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2020, 02:25:26 PM »
[Fátima] is an approved apparition with the greatest miracle we have seen in the entire history of the Church.

Where can I find the official docuмent which approves the apparition, the messages, and/or the miracle?

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2020, 02:33:15 PM »
Where can I find the official docuмent which approves the apparition, the messages, and/or the miracle?

I cited these earlier:
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Bishop José Alves Correia da Silva declared the events worthy of belief on 13 October 1930. On 13 May 1946, Pope Pius XII granted a canonical coronation to the venerated image enshrined at the Chapel of the Apparitions of Fátima via his apostolic legate, Cardinal Benedetto Aloisi Masella. On 11 November 1954, he raised the Sanctuary of Fátima to the status of a minor basilica by his papal brief Lucer superna.

I have not found a copy of said Lucer superna, but I don't doubt it exists.