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Offline Yeti

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Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2020, 07:52:33 AM »
Fatima, a vision that has dominated Catholic thinking since the illusion of the sun was reported, relies entirely on the words of Lucia. Be aware that Portugal then was already communist with Freemasons running the country. Lucia's Portugal is depicted as Catholic as Rome at that time, a place that would 'keep' the dogma of the faith' whatever that is meant to say. Portugal went its merry to all the same communist led anti-Catholic laws as every other country in the world did since. Lucia's predictions were given by her after they happened whereas we are all led to believe she told us these things in 1917, before they happened. As for miracles at Fatima, are there any at all?
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The miracle of the sun was one of the most amazing miracles in 2,000 years. It even converted some people who didn't even believe in God. It was witnessed by everyone who was there, something like 70,000 people. To this day the pagan world does not deny it happened, and is at a loss to explain it with any kind of explanation that makes any sense.
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Today, Catholics are waiting for Our Lady to come back and fix everything. In fact man has free will and needs to convert personally before things are 'fixed.' No, it is up to every man and woman to save their own souls and waiting for Mary to do it is just not Catholic.

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I agree. First of all I think the attention many trads give to private revelations is excessive and inappropriate in the first place. Private revelations are not meant to tell us what will happen in the future, as many people think they are. They are intended to warn us and guide us on the right path, and tell us that bad things will happen to us if we sin. But to try to figure out the lineage of some supposed emperor who is supposedly going to take charge of Europe and the world based on the supposed words of some medieval monk is a fool's errand. God does not tell us the future.
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Waiting for the flamery now ... :laugh1:

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2020, 08:10:21 AM »
In one sense, Fatima has already happened, but not in another.  We still await the consecration so that Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will triumph.

Nevertheless, the Third Secret was mean to be a warning of the Vatican II apostasy.  There's no other reason why, according to Sister Lucia, it should have been revealed by 1960 at the latest, because "it would be much clearer then."  What events took place in the late 50s and early 60s that would render the Secret clearer?  My money is on the fact that it warned of the infiltration of the Church and the series of Antipopes we have had.  But Pius XII refused to release it.  Some people say he was very ill and being poisoned toward the end of his reign.  Who knows?

And the Third Secret can still play a part here.  If it finally gets revealed, it could serve to blow the whistle, as it were, on these Antipopes.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2020, 08:13:44 AM »
Private revelations are not meant to tell us what will happen in the future, as many people think they are. They are intended to warn us and guide us on the right path, and tell us that bad things will happen to us if we sin.

Well, sometimes it's both, where there's a warning about future events.  I am personally convinced that the Fatima Third Secret was a warning about the Vatican II apostasy.  Some who claim to have read it have said as much, that it's about the loss of faith that goes "all the way to the top," as it were.  What in the Secret stunned Sister Lucia so badly that she became almost physically unable to write it down for several days.  She felt ill every time she tried to write it.  Was this about the failed assassination attempt on JP2?  Hardly.

No, what happened at around 1960 that was THAT shocking to her?  It's undoubtedly about the fact that the Papacy would be infiltrated by the Church's enemies, who would then uproot the faith and the Mass.

But, yeah, people who are trying to figure out the identity of the prophesied Great Monarch could better spend their time on other endeavors.  Some of these prophecies are to give us hope ... and the strength to persevere through this Crisis.  We know that a great apostasy has been prophesied repeatedly by numerous private revelations, but also prophesied is an eventual Triumph of the Church through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  So that gives us hope and comfort through all of this.

Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2020, 08:45:56 AM »
As for miracles at Fatima, are there any at all?

Really?

The miracle of the sun? 


Re: Rome will lose the Faith!
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2020, 08:50:46 AM »
I believe the quote says "In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph." The phrase "in the end" usually refers to the end of time. What other end would it be referring to? And the Last Judgment will truly be the great triumph of God and Our Lady. Our Lady told us that to encourage us, telling us that the wicked will seem to win in this world, but it will only be temporary because everything will be set right and the forces of good will win "in the end", at the end of time.
"In the end" means at the end of whatever event or time period is being referenced, in this case the Chastisement. "In the end" would be a very vague and weird way to refer to the end of days unless you were already speaking in the context of the Apocalypse.