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Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2018, 10:31:40 PM »
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    • Great points, Croix.  
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    Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
    « Reply #31 on: May 08, 2018, 04:17:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on May 07, 2018, 10:27:45 PM
    The statements, "Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of Antichrist" and "the Church will be in eclipse" are part of the apparition that was originally approved with an Imprimatur by Monsignor Bishop of Lecce.

    The Newchurch, and modernists before it, denied this apparition as a means to exonerate itself and deny the rot that now fills the Vatican and Novus Ordo chapels all across the world. It's no different than the modernists lying about the 3rd secret of Fatima when antipope JPII released the purported "3rd secret" back in 2000 which excluded the revelation of the apostasy of Newchurch eclipsing the true Catholic Faith/Church.  

    Moreover, the statement "Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of Antichrist" doesn't mean the antipope will be the Antichrist per se. It's only saying that Antichrist will be positioned in Rome some way.

    the abomination of desolation stands in the holy place ~ Matthew 24:15-21

    the man of sin - the son of perdition sitteth in the Temple of God  ~ 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

    The "holy place" and "Temple of God" can only mean the Holy Tabernacle. This means chapels that have tabernacles for the sole purpose of housing our Lord, but the counterfeit church replaced Him with somethings else that is diabolical.

    The "Temple" doesn't refer to the 3rd "temple" that is to be built in Jerusalem. That can never be a true Temple of God because it's of Antichrist Jєωs.
    Thank you! That is how I understood it also.
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    Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
    « Reply #32 on: May 20, 2018, 09:52:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on May 07, 2018, 10:27:45 PM
    The statements, "Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of Antichrist" and "the Church will be in eclipse" are part of the apparition that was originally approved with an Imprimatur by Monsignor Bishop of Lecce.

    Moreover, the statement "Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of Antichrist" doesn't mean the antipope will be the Antichrist per se. It's only saying that Antichrist will be positioned in Rome some way.

    A couple problems with your opinion/personal opinion here:

    1. This interpretation has not received any ecclesiastical approbation whatsoever, much less an imprimatur.
    2. Say "that Antichrist will be positioned" is highly problematic. You fail to personify the Antichrist. You're suggesting that the Antichrist will be a tendency, a movement, or a "spirit" rather than a MAN. Catholic Tradition is unanimous that the Antichrist will be an actual man, who will not suffer (allow) any other worship than to himself. Even Pope Francis totally fails this litmus test. So do the conciliar Church and the novus ordo Mass! They allow us to love God (though they do a lousy job of leading us there), to pray as much as we want, etc. They are just dangerous, ineffective, counter-productive, and mixed with poison. 

    Some Scripture passages have a figurative meaning as well as a literal one. For example, Our Lord's prophecy of the End of the World predicted elements of the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, as well as the end of the world itself.

    I would put forth that any prophecy that speaks only of a "figurative" Antichrist is pretty useless. THAT Antichrist has been with us for centuries! The whole spirit of liberalism, exaltation of man over God, etc. is nothing new. Every single government on earth today would be guilty of being "a seat of Antichrist" in that respect.

    I doubt Our Lady or Our Lord would lower themselves to making such a banal prediction. So what I suggest is that Our Lady was predicting the ACTUAL, FLESH AND BLOOD Antichrist with a capital A. Also known as "the Man of Sin"

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    Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
    « Reply #33 on: May 20, 2018, 04:57:39 PM »
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    « Reply #34 on: May 20, 2018, 06:32:56 PM »
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    • It was not so long reading, but a must to read.  Thank you for this!
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    « Reply #35 on: May 20, 2018, 06:36:22 PM »
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    • If Chapter 12 of Daniel is true: The Mass will come to an end, and I believe it is and we are almost there, then we can expect the evils of the world to happen!
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    Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
    « Reply #36 on: May 20, 2018, 11:29:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cantarella on May 07, 2018, 04:12:58 PM
    The Pope of Rome will never be the anti-Christ. That is a most heretical belief; which is impossible.
    A true pope cannot be Antichrist, but Antichrist will likely be an anti-pope.
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    Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
    « Reply #37 on: May 29, 2018, 11:59:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nandarani on May 20, 2018, 04:57:39 PM
    It takes a  l o n g  time to read all this but one might find it worth the effort.
    A few years ago I made it a point to read up on the Marian apparitions. When I came upon Our Lady of LaSalette it made a deep impression on me, especially the image of Our Lady weeping. She has been weeping a long time. Her sorrow is great, greater than at the foot of the cross. For then she had hope of the resurrection. I am a child of the pre-V2 era. I see the crying image and it becomes my distress. I have given up the hope of the church restored. Mother Angelica said she prayed that the Lord take her when the worst is over, she has been gone almost two years exactly. I cling to every morsel of good news.

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    I was removed from the church as a child (my parents believed the post V2 church had apostacized) I have been searching for what I lost my entire life. No one came door to door looking for us. Except JW's.
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    Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
    « Reply #38 on: May 30, 2018, 01:11:07 PM »
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    • Guess you haven't been to Italy lately. 

    It's only nominally Catholic,  akin tp the Jєωs. It's cultural, but not practiced religion. 

    I don't pay any attention to La Sallette but Bergoglio is an archetype of antichrist/ false prophet.
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    Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
    « Reply #39 on: June 01, 2018, 11:52:25 AM »
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    Not that the rot is a good thing, nor that Christ can will evil, but he can will to permit evil for a greater good, and in the meantime all Catholics are entitled, even obliged, to resist the rot as best they can.
    This is nonsense. The ends never justify the means. 
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    Re: Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist huh? Says who?
    « Reply #40 on: June 08, 2018, 12:18:28 PM »
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    • I was told many years ago that the Church never approved the message but did approve the vision.  I didn't understand it then and the priest explained that the Church at that time just could not grasp the idea of Rome becoming the seat of Antichrist. 

    I think if the sedevacantist has used that phrase it is because today it is obvious, however today it would be impossible for the Church to approve it if you are considering Vatican II, to be the Church.  
    I do not!

    I just wrote this post and placed it on myforever.blog this very moment to explain why Vatican II is not the Church.  Therefore if it is not the Church it must be Anti-Christ.  

    Authority exists to the Churches, not the Church living for the sake of authority. Authority is a concern for the sheep; read John 21; 15-17. “Feed My sheep.”
    This Authority or Power; “Let every soul be subject to higher powers: for there is no power but from God: and those that are, are ordained of God.”
    We see here how God has given authority to His Church to feed His sheep, as in John 21; 15-17.
    What happens in the case of the current “pope” who is not feeding the sheep? Is Vatican II a church that has adapted to the world existing; existing only for the sake of said authority? NO!
    This jurisdiction/power is gone. God will not be mocked.
    Does the Church that Christ found still exist. OF COURSE and with AUTHORITY!
    He has said, about His second coming, ” the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?” Luke 18:8
    Seek the Traditional Catholic Faith
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