In the Remnant article (posted in another thread), here is an alternate version of the La Salette prophecy:

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Priests and ministers of Christ had become corrupt; they were leading evil lives, full of irreverence, impiety in celebrating Holy Mass; they were in love with money, honors, and pleasures, were sources of impurity. God’s wrath was about to descend upon them if they do not repent. They have forgotten prayer, penance; they have become falling stars, the devil possessing their minds and souls. God will abandon the society, if they do not bring back His people to a good virtuous life. Pius IX, God’s holy and good servant, must not flee Rome again, but must fight evil generously and courageously. Look at Napoleon, his heart and mind are puffed up with pride; he wants to be both a Pope and the Emperor, God will abandon and punish him. Italy will be scourged with wars and much bƖσσdshɛd for trying to throw off the yoke of Christ. Many are leaving the faith, the number of religious and priests abandoning their vocations is vast. In 1864 Lucifer and hordes of his demons will be let loose from hell to capture priests and religious in infidelity. Evil, wicked books are escalating everywhere; people will be displaced from place to place; extraordinary prodigies will take place in nature; heresies will arise everywhere. Woe to the princes of the Church who are interested only in accuмulating riches upon riches. France, Italy, Spain, England will be engulfed in war, in floods of human blood running in the streets; these wars will be both cινιℓ ωαrs and foreign wars. But the persecutors of the Church and her enemies will be destroyed. There will come a time of peace, but only after Paris is set to the torch and Marseilles overrun. God will visit mankind with chastisements for over 35 years. Then, after a period of peace for 25 years, men will again be corrupted by the good life; a prophet precursor of the Antichrist will come on the scene, will conquer many nations by military force, pose as the savior of the world; pests, famines, wars will again chastise the whole world. Finally the antichrist will be born of a Jєωιѕн nun, a false virgin who will be in constant communication with Satan; his father will be a bishop, the Antichrist will pour out blasphemies, terrifying howls; he will perform prodigies, will live a life of extreme wickedness. Rome will lose the faith, will become the Seat of the Antichrist, the Gospel will be preached everywhere in the world.

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Did the part about the Antichrist working prodigies (demonic false miracles) get "skipped"? 

I'm serious. It's an honest question. Everyone loves to quote this, but it's taken completely out of context. I only want the truth here.

I've heard Trads quote this as literally being true today -- "Rome will lose the Faith and become (figuratively) the seat of the Antichrist". They say it without any provisos, further explanation, etc. They believe it literally. They believe Rome has lost the Faith, and is (figuratively) the seat of Antichrist today, Antichrist being the spirit of Modernism, liberalism, communism, and all other demonic errors.

But I must say that such is a silly, ridiculous misuse of this prophecy.

Well, I think that +Lefebvre has cited it, and so has +Williamson.  I think it's just something people haven't thought deeply about or researched thoroughly.

Well I think it's high time that changed. Is the original prophecy something that exists publicly? Can a French speaker look at the original text and at least verify the translation we're all trusting so implicitly?

Again, my whole purpose for starting this thread:

If Trad Catholics, by the droves, are A) thinking Rome has lost the Faith and B) has become the seat of Antichrist, with a corollary C) that Pope Francis is the Man of Sin himself, don't you think that error/exaggeration is a bad thing?

Error and exaggeration (which turns truth into error, BTW) are always evil, and have evil consequences.

Don't you think some people won't touch Tradition with a 50 foot pole, when they hear such exaggerations from Trads? Like I said, error (which is often the exaggeration of a truth!) doesn't help anyone but satan.

Error and exaggeration (which turns truth into error, BTW) are always evil, and have evil consequences.

But the error and exaggeration, when discussing sedevacantists on this forum, are almost always on your part and the part of other anti-sedevacantists.

What exaggeration? Can you quote something I said that was an exaggeration, much less an error?

Sean Johnson isn't here right now. Take up that fight with him. His fight is not always my fight. The fervent anti-Sedes don't speak for me, and I have no connection to them.

Every time you say, "sedevacantists say, or think this, that, or something else", you are usually exaggerating.  

The only thing you can say that sedevacantists say or think that is NOT an exaggeration is:  "Sedevacantists think that the See of Peter is vacant right now."  I've said it before (a long time ago), but this is the only thing that makes someone a sedevacanist.  Nothing else is a sedevacantist "belief".

The Pope of Rome will never be the anti-Christ. That is a most heretical belief; which is impossible. I do not understand why that prophecy is associated with sedevacantism at all. On the contrary, there are some R&R around who will agree with Martin Luther here and say that if the Pontiff is the anti-Christ himself, that "is not a problem":

Now, it is manifest that the Roman pontiffs, with their adherents, defend [and practice] godless doctrines and godless services. And the marks [all the vices] of Antichrist plainly agree with the kingdom of the Pope and his adherents. For Paul, in describing Antichrist to the Thessalonians, calls him 2 Thess. 2:3-4: an adversary of Christ, who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God. He speaks therefore of one ruling in the Church, not of heathen kings, and he calls this one the adversary of Christ, because he will devise doctrine conflicting with the Gospel, and will assume to himself divine authority.”

The statements, "Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of Antichrist" and "the Church will be in eclipse" are part of the apparition that was originally approved with an Imprimatur by Monsignor Bishop of Lecce.

The Newchurch, and modernists before it, denied this apparition as a means to exonerate itself and deny the rot that now fills the Vatican and Novus Ordo chapels all across the world. It's no different than the modernists lying about the 3rd secret of Fatima when antipope JPII released the purported "3rd secret" back in 2000 which excluded the revelation of the apostasy of Newchurch eclipsing the true Catholic Faith/Church.  

Moreover, the statement "Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of Antichrist" doesn't mean the antipope will be the Antichrist per se. It's only saying that Antichrist will be positioned in Rome some way.

the abomination of desolation stands in the holy place ~ Matthew 24:15-21

the man of sin - the son of perdition sitteth in the Temple of God  ~ 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

The "holy place" and "Temple of God" can only mean the Holy Tabernacle. This means chapels that have tabernacles for the sole purpose of housing our Lord, but the counterfeit church replaced Him with somethings else that is diabolical.

The "Temple" doesn't refer to the 3rd "temple" that is to be built in Jerusalem. That can never be a true Temple of God because it's of Antichrist Jєωs.