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Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #90 on:** October 28, 2013, 01:32:41 AM »

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Two of the children, Francisco and Jacinta, were victim souls who reached the heights of the unitive life and their souls entered eternal beatitude at death. Sr. Lucia entered Holy Religion and underwent untold spiritual trials for the greater glory of Jesus and Mary and for the salvation of souls; being a worthy Carmelite virgin daughter of St. Elias the Prophet, and of St. Teresa of Jesus and St. John of the Cross.

I corrected a huge mistake. One keystroke makes the difference.

Also, the comment against Our Lady's apparitions from the resident Oriental schismatic seems more and more offensive.

I don't know, but we can't "dialogue" with people who despise the holy Scapular (without apparently knowing about it), but then again what else are we to expect when someone has apostatized to the Oriental schism...

Nadir · « **Reply #91 on:** October 28, 2013, 03:53:54 AM »

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The message of Our Lady of the Rosary at Fatima is nothing more than the summary of Our Lord teachings in the Holy Gospels, the teachings of the Fathers and the Doctors and spiritual masters, and the teachings of the Apostolic See; and it was made in a simplicity that could only have been of celestial origin and presented the profound truths of the Catholic faith in a practical manner that was easy to comprehend and implement in one's life.

Here is the crux of it. Nick says he was a Catholic and he converted to the Orhtodox schism.

Nick, as a Catholic, did you ever pray the Holy Rosary? The Holy Theotokos will answer all your prayers and lead you in the path that leads to life.

You've made a pretty persistent attempt to defend your false religion, but you have really come to the wrong place if you want to convert others here to your sect.

You know less about the Orthodox than most posters here and even less about the Catholic Faith and what purports to be the Catholic religion, but is not, i.e. conciliar church of Vatican 2. May I suggest that you go and do your homework.

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Well, if Mary was conceived in some way other than the rest of us, then she wouldn't be fully human, and likewise Christ wouldn't be both fully human and fully God!

See! you don't even know the meaning of the Immaculate Conception. No Catholic would say that Mary was not conceived in the usual way, but that her sould was always free from sin. Angel Gabriel addressed her as Full of Grace! That means that there is no sin in her.

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evil is not in the condom, since it's just a piece of latex!

I remember reading about some Fillipino village that was inundated with unwanted condoms. They used them in some horticultural venture. Can't remember what, but they were put to excellent use. These people did not sin in using them for another purpose than that unintended by the generous donors. But if they had used them to stop babies coming into the world, or so they could prevent getting some venereal disease, then that would have been sinful. I know that, as an "Orthodox", you probably won't be able to recognise the subtle differences.

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Jurgens, The Faith of the Early Fathers, Liturgical Press, Vol. 1: 210.

I have found this very useful in refuting "Orthodox" false beliefs. The "Orthodox" love to say they follow the Fathers. Get yourself a copy, Nick, and look up Papacy in the index, especially take note of those hundreds of references which illustrate the on-going primacy of Peter and his successors. I am praying for you, Nick.

ggreg · « **Reply #92 on:** November 05, 2013, 07:46:31 AM »

Belarus ( Dictatorship, stagnated economically)
Bulgaria (Corrupt basketcase)
Cyprus (Bankrupt basketcase)
Georgia (Probably the best of the list, but poor and corrupt)
Greece (Bankrupt basketcase full of very lazy people supported by Germans)
Macedonia (political basketcase)
Moldova (absolute and total basketcase, worst of the lot, except perhaps for Serbia)
Montenegro (Rubbish)
Romania (About the best of the lot but still incredibly corrupt)
Russia (Corrupt to the core)
Serbia (Been a mess for 100+ years)
Ukraine (Like Russia but poorer)

Have any Orthodox countries actually got themselves together, economically/politically with legal and administrative systems that actually help the population rather than exist to line the pockets of bureaucrats?

In which of these countries could you expect a fair trial? (Tip: Cyprus is a British justice system).

If the true religion does not translate into peace, economic prosperity and those countries leading the way in the world, culturally, politically, for some period of time, albeit that all countries will have some problems from time to time, then one has to wonder about the merits of all that truth and holiness. Why wouldn't the Holy Spirit bless and protect those countries and help to to avoid wars or develop as strong political and economic powers?

Even Job got his goods and his comfortable life back eventually; when God was done testing him.

What exactly are the fruits of Orthodoxy? All the above countries are corrupt holes that young people are trying to escape from given half a chance.

I fully accept that western Europe has dropped the ball, but at least we had the ball for a few hundred of the last 1000 years. On that basis alone, as well as prosletizing the new world, Africa and Asia the smart money would have to be on Catholicism being the horse God is backing.

bowler · « **Reply #93 on:** November 05, 2013, 08:18:18 AM »

In my personal experience, without fail, ALL fallen away Catholics who convert to "another religion", do so to be confirmed in their sins, like for instance divorce and re-marriage (adultery).

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables". (2Tim 4)

bowler · « **Reply #94 on:** November 05, 2013, 08:22:42 AM »

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In my personal experience, without fail, ALL fallen away Catholics who convert to "another religion", do so to be confirmed in their sins, like for instance divorce and re-marriage (adultery).

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables". (2Tim 4)

"what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?" (Mark 8:36)

All Eastern Orthodox and Protestants are lost for all eternity if they die in their religion. Quite a risk to take to be able to re-marry.

ggreg · « **Reply #95 on:** November 05, 2013, 08:41:40 AM »

Why bother? Just stay in the Catholic Church and obtain an annulment. It's pretty rare that they are refused.

Matto · « **Reply #96 on:** November 05, 2013, 04:27:22 PM »

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Why bother? Just stay in the Catholic Church and obtain an annulment. It's pretty rare that they are refused.

Well, if you really want to be damned . . .