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Offline Lover of Truth

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« on: November 03, 2013, 04:25:15 AM »
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    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #1 on: November 03, 2013, 04:57:46 AM »
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    I did email Church militant TV before and got a response, I said something about not being able to accept the conciliar church, their response was not from voris but some other apparent wannabe church fixer, he said that those who split off from the church are in heresy and that I claim love of the church but am "not willing to suffer for love of the church in a liberal parish".

    This is not how the church treats heresy. The church says to have nothing to do with heretics. CMTV's response was saying I ought to attend my local novus ordo because it is the church - but this is regardless of whether or not it has the faith. Essentially he advocated the cult of the building.
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    « Reply #2 on: November 03, 2013, 05:39:30 AM »
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    • That's because these people don't really believe in heresy.  Even the SSPX (both Menzingen and the Resistance) talk about "errors" of the Conciliar church, but they don't really believe there's heresy--even when they slip up and use the term.

    Heresy has consequences, but most people refuse to believe it when the little boy stands up and truthfully says, "But he has no clothes!"  Instead, they just try to shut him up and pretend he is still wearing his royal garments.

    If the current teachings of Conciliarism are nothing but "errors", then why on earth did the Church worry about Arius?  Of course, the Conciliar sect is already reforming its views of Luther--and guess what--they now say that it was the Church that was wrong!  This is just an error?  Or is it heresy--that puts one outside the Church?
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    « Reply #3 on: November 03, 2013, 07:31:35 AM »
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    • Voris, like so many others, only go just so far.  It's frustrating.
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    « Reply #4 on: November 03, 2013, 08:09:09 AM »
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    That's because these people don't really believe in heresy.  Even the SSPX (both Menzingen and the Resistance) talk about "errors" of the Conciliar church, but they don't really believe there's heresy--even when they slip up and use the term.

    Heresy has consequences, but most people refuse to believe it when the little boy stands up and truthfully says, "But he has no clothes!"  Instead, they just try to shut him up and pretend he is still wearing his royal garments.

    If the current teachings of Conciliarism are nothing but "errors", then why on earth did the Church worry about Arius?  Of course, the Conciliar sect is already reforming its views of Luther--and guess what--they now say that it was the Church that was wrong!  This is just an error?  Or is it heresy--that puts one outside the Church?


    It is a little frustrating, yes, but I have not experienced the same frustration with Resistance priests as I have with SSPX priests and the "h" word.  Fr. Hewko especially uses it.  A lot.
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    « Reply #5 on: November 03, 2013, 11:36:02 AM »
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    That's because these people don't really believe in heresy.  Even the SSPX (both Menzingen and the Resistance) talk about "errors" of the Conciliar church, but they don't really believe there's heresy--even when they slip up and use the term.

    Heresy has consequences, but most people refuse to believe it when the little boy stands up and truthfully says, "But he has no clothes!"  Instead, they just try to shut him up and pretend he is still wearing his royal garments.

    If the current teachings of Conciliarism are nothing but "errors", then why on earth did the Church worry about Arius?  Of course, the Conciliar sect is already reforming its views of Luther--and guess what--they now say that it was the Church that was wrong!  This is just an error?  Or is it heresy--that puts one outside the Church?


    It is a little frustrating, yes, but I have not experienced the same frustration with Resistance priests as I have with SSPX priests and the "h" word.  Fr. Hewko especially uses it.  A lot.


    They why is he so anti-sedevacantist?  Why is it that today's "modern" priests do not know what heresy does to the soul?
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    « Reply #6 on: November 03, 2013, 03:34:05 PM »
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    That's because these people don't really believe in heresy.  Even the SSPX (both Menzingen and the Resistance) talk about "errors" of the Conciliar church, but they don't really believe there's heresy--even when they slip up and use the term.

    Heresy has consequences, but most people refuse to believe it when the little boy stands up and truthfully says, "But he has no clothes!"  Instead, they just try to shut him up and pretend he is still wearing his royal garments.

    If the current teachings of Conciliarism are nothing but "errors", then why on earth did the Church worry about Arius?  Of course, the Conciliar sect is already reforming its views of Luther--and guess what--they now say that it was the Church that was wrong!  This is just an error?  Or is it heresy--that puts one outside the Church?


    It is a little frustrating, yes, but I have not experienced the same frustration with Resistance priests as I have with SSPX priests and the "h" word.  Fr. Hewko especially uses it.  A lot.


    They why is he so anti-sedevacantist?  Why is it that today's "modern" priests do not know what heresy does to the soul?


    I have not found him to be anti-sedevacantist, just "not" sedevacantist.  As to the second question, I don't know.
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