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Offline SJB

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« on: May 03, 2012, 12:40:31 PM »
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  • He has an interesting and rather colorful past ...
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil


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    « Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 08:56:58 PM »
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  • And the purpose of this thread?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    « Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 08:55:11 AM »
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    And the purpose of this thread?


    Rev. Dr. Alcuin Reid was mentioned below as a liturgical expert, so I decided to see who he was ...

    Alcuin Reid mentioned here

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    Dr. Reid is not well known in old-line traditionalist circles (independents, SSPX, sedevacantists, The Remnant, etc.), but is very well known among the younger and more conservative generation of post-Vatican II clergy who in the mid-1990s started to question the official liturgical reforms. He has written numerous articles and lectured at international conferences promoting the application of Benedict XVI’s Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificuм, which gave a general permission for celebrating the Mass according to the Missal of John XXIII.

    Dr. Reid’s academic reputation was secured by his monumental work, The Organic Development of the Liturgy: The Principles of Liturgical Reform and Their Relation to the Twentieth-Century Liturgical Movement Prior to the Second Vatican Council (Ignatius Press 2005). This is a survey of the history of liturgical change and development up to the eve of Vatican II. The second edition in 2005 contained a laudatory preface by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger. Dr. Reid is currently at work on a successor volume entitled Continuity or Rupture? A Study of The Liturgical Reform of the Second Vatican Council, which is due to be released in 2013.

    I should add here that I am greatly indebted to Dr. Reid for the many insights that Organic Development provided me with as I was researching Work of Human Hands. His work was particularly helpful as I was trying  to sort out and understand the theories of the German Jesuit liturgical scholar Josef Jungmann that would greatly influence the creation of the Novus Ordo.


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    « Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 09:13:48 PM »
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    Should one dismiss his research?
    Of course not.  It would be foolish to necessarily dismiss the research.  This is yet another desperate attempt by SJB to smear Father Cekada through guilt by association, however remote.  When it comes to smearing Fr. Cekada, SJB is never satisfied!   Obviously the reason he started this thread.  

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    « Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 09:22:24 PM »
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    Should one dismiss his research?


    I was interested in who he might be and what his credentials were. I was a little surprised at what I found, but wasn't suggesting all of his research should be dismissed.
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil


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    « Reply #5 on: May 04, 2012, 09:32:45 PM »
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    Should one dismiss his research?
    Of course not.  It would be foolish to necessarily dismiss the research.  This is yet another desperate attempt by SJB to smear Father Cekada through guilt by association, however remote.  When it comes to smearing Fr. Cekada, SJB is never satisfied!   Obviously the reason he started this thread.  


    Should we then dismiss who he really is and what he has done? Are you suggesting we
    hide it? If so, why?
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 09:18:57 PM »
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    Should one dismiss his research?
    Of course not.  It would be foolish to necessarily dismiss the research.  This is yet another desperate attempt by SJB to smear Father Cekada through guilt by association, however remote.  When it comes to smearing Fr. Cekada, SJB is never satisfied!   Obviously the reason he started this thread.  


    Should we then dismiss who he really is and what he has done? Are you suggesting we
    hide it? If so, why?


    Are you suggesting we hide his past, which appears to also be his present? If so, why?

    Can you give us an answer, Simple Catholic?
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    « Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 09:27:47 PM »
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  • I was as astonished that Father Cekeda would associated with Dom Alcuin as the opposite.


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    « Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 06:56:53 AM »
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    Dr Reid reviewed Fr Cekada's book at www.newliturgicalmovement.org and  Fr Cekada responded on his blog. That was the extent of the "association".

    Let's stick with the facts here people.


    And that's all I did, as I quoted Cekada's blog:

    Quote from: Fr. Cekada
    Dr. Reid is not well known in old-line traditionalist circles (independents, SSPX, sedevacantists, The Remnant, etc.), but is very well known among the younger and more conservative generation of post-Vatican II clergy who in the mid-1990s started to question the official liturgical reforms. He has written numerous articles and lectured at international conferences promoting the application of Benedict XVI’s Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificuм, which gave a general permission for celebrating the Mass according to the Missal of John XXIII.

    Dr. Reid’s academic reputation was secured by his monumental work, The Organic Development of the Liturgy: The Principles of Liturgical Reform and Their Relation to the Twentieth-Century Liturgical Movement Prior to the Second Vatican Council (Ignatius Press 2005). This is a survey of the history of liturgical change and development up to the eve of Vatican II. The second edition in 2005 contained a laudatory preface by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger. Dr. Reid is currently at work on a successor volume entitled Continuity or Rupture? A Study of The Liturgical Reform of the Second Vatican Council, which is due to be released in 2013.

    I should add here that I am greatly indebted to Dr. Reid for the many insights that Organic Development provided me with as I was researching Work of Human Hands. His work was particularly helpful as I was trying  to sort out and understand the theories of the German Jesuit liturgical scholar Josef Jungmann that would greatly influence the creation of the Novus Ordo.
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil