Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Responses to the Crisis: Conciliar Church = Catholic Church?  (Read 9918 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Quo vadis Domine

  • Supporter
Re: Responses to the Crisis: Conciliar Church = Catholic Church?
« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2020, 05:40:29 AM »
Actually your Conciliar religion is the false religion.  But I do agree that we are not in the same religion.  You are a member of a religion led by a part-time Lutheran minister.  I’m a member of the Catholic Church.  The clergy of the Catholic Church are ordained and consecrated in the rites that have always been used by the Catholic Church.  Your clergy are ordained and consecrated in a new non-Catholic rite.  Catholics follow the 1917 Code of Canon Law.  Your religion follows the non-Catholic 1983 code.  Catholic clergy pray the Church’s Divine Liturgy.  Your clergy pray a new non-Catholic liturgy of the hours.  The Catholic Church’s clerics are generally very holy.  Your Conciliar clergy are more than 50% active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and your bishops are almost all ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.  I’m in agreement with the SSPX of 1988 - I’m honored to be excommunicated from your unholy Conciliar religion.
Clemens, good reply, but this ignoramus is looking to get a rise out of us and he should just be ignored.

Re: Responses to the Crisis: Conciliar Church = Catholic Church?
« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2020, 07:41:43 AM »
Actually your Conciliar religion is the false religion.  But I do agree that we are not in the same religion.  You are a member of a religion led by a part-time Lutheran minister.  I’m a member of the Catholic Church.  The clergy of the Catholic Church are ordained and consecrated in the rites that have always been used by the Catholic Church.  Your clergy are ordained and consecrated in a new non-Catholic rite.  Catholics follow the 1917 Code of Canon Law.  Your religion follows the non-Catholic 1983 code.  Catholic clergy pray the Church’s Divine Liturgy.  Your clergy pray a new non-Catholic liturgy of the hours.  The Catholic Church’s clerics are generally very holy.  Your Conciliar clergy are more than 50% active ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and your bishops are almost all ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.  I’m in agreement with the SSPX of 1988 - I’m honored to be excommunicated from your unholy Conciliar religion.


I guess we could say by their "fruits" we shall know them.


Offline Quo vadis Domine

  • Supporter
Re: Responses to the Crisis: Conciliar Church = Catholic Church?
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2020, 07:56:57 AM »

I guess we could say by their "fruits" we shall know them.
:laugh1:

Re: Responses to the Crisis: Conciliar Church = Catholic Church?
« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2020, 06:35:10 PM »
Now, now, we can't keep picking on poor, poor poche.  
TBH I purely did this as a joke.  The controversy doesn't matter to me that much one way or another.

Re: Responses to the Crisis: Conciliar Church = Catholic Church?
« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2020, 07:25:14 PM »
Yeti:  Thank you for suggesting the term sedeagnostic.  I had not come across that term and I am glad to learn it.  I don't believe there is a word, sedeapocryphist, so truthfully, I thought I was bringing in a new word to describe someone who holds that the seat of Peter is occupied by one of doubtful authenticity.  A key part of this is who is and who is not in a position to say with any certainty?  Never-the-less, here's my thinking.  Is it possible to identify a heretic?  I think it is.  If it is, then even one occupying the seat of Peter, unwilling to recant of heretical statements, could be aptly identified as a heretic.  So, the next question to contemplate is whether one unwilling to recant of heresy can be aptly seen as a Catholic?  I do not think someone can be a willful heretic and a Catholic.  And if being a heretic and a Catholic are not compatible, the final question is how could it be possible for a heretic, who is not a Catholic, to occupy the seat of Peter and be authentically recognized as the Pope?  Anyway, that's my logic.  I believe that God can use a heretic to bring the faithful closer to Him, or to test His flock's faith, and perhaps that is what He is doing.  I also believe we are called to use common sense, logic, and reasoning to direct our thinking, our faith, and our actions.