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Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
« on: October 28, 2011, 10:26:15 AM »
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  • I did this with google and then went over it carefully, I think it's pretty accurate now. This is only 1/8th of the article. It took me a while...

    Who dared to defend Rampolla? FARCE? Nonsense? or HOAX?

    A renegade follower of Archbishop Lefebvre defends the F ∴ M ∴ Rampolla.
    Is it just a joke? Is it pure stupidity?
    Or will the Italian sedevacantists rejoin join the camp-Tanoüarn Celier and Co.
    in their argument that there is not a plot against the Church?
    But we do not have to take them seriously.

    In an extensive article of 35 pages entitled "The Cardinal Rampolla was he a Freemason?" Published in the Italian magazine "Sodalitium" Number 62, Father Ricossa not only questioned the Masonic affiliation of Cardinal Rampolla but also his membership of the High-Illuminist Lucifero Masonry of the OTO.

    We note at the outset that  from the title of the article until the final sentence it is meant to instill doubt.

    It should be noted before entering the heart of the matter we have other things to do in a state of emergency than fighting other Catholics, even if they have diffwerent tendencies! We prefer to use all our energy to fight the occult power in all its manifestations!

    However, from time to time when the honor of certain persons are involved when inconsistencies maneuvers or enemies make it necessary, or in the name of frternal correction, we should not hesitate to intervene. The fight for truth and the fight against enemies requires it.

    Regarding the case of Rampolla, we have already said what we had to say in our previous article; Father Ricossa by way of his dishonest he article, however requires us to answer him point by point today, although the facts are long established.

    Second point: according to the "reading grid" that we have given in our articles on the "Vocabulary of the Enemy” (SLB No. 80) and" Vocabulary monomaniac "(SLB No. 141), we were not surprised to find in the article of Fr. Ricossa discrediting words whose sole purpose is to instill doubt about the Masonic and Luciferian affiliation of Cardinal Rampolla - in the minds of followers of the readers of "Sodalitium", supporters of their cause or their friends and readers of their magazine. Thus, early in the article, Father Ricossa launches an all out attack "actual state of the thesis," "first rumours" "potential Masonic initiation" "version which owes its capillary diffusion to the many lectures and writings of the Marquis de La Franquerie in the 1970s "," enriched with new elements,” " Press `traditionalist' (note the use of quotes).

    But the abbot Ricossa attacks specifically our article in the SLB, the article that prompted him to write his scathing article in "Sodalitium" No. 62! ...

    1)   LOOSE STATEMENTS AND GRATUITIST ACUSATIONS:
    We must point out numerous errors of interpretation due to a misreading of our article or an expressed intention to demolish the "thesis of our affiliate."

    We have never claimed to take the place of the teaching Church, and would have never lifted a pen for over twenty years now, if the authorities mandated to do the fighting had done their duty! All our masters are clerics and scholars, of high intellectual integrity, many of which may be honored, even canonized, one day when the Church will be in order. We affirm nothing of ourselves. We quote simply authorities and docuмents that we have been fortunate to know about and we can not fail to inform our neighbor, given their importance. Not keep them to ourselves would be a crime. We had the grace to know: We must let others know! We are the watcher, the sentinel on the lookout and we have at heart to point out the danger when we see it, including the dangers from the  past that illuminate the danger today!

    Thus, we never said free all Secretaries of State of the Vatican from Pius IX, were appointed by the F ∴ M ∴.( 1) We hold this proposal of our old friend and revered master, the Marquis de La Franquerie who was before the war the right hand man of Monsignor Jouin and editor-in-Chief of the RISS, what he had learned a lot about the "inside information", the nature of occult powers, its actions, tactics of infiltration ... And the information of the Marquis were corroborated by former Jesuit Malachi Martin in his book: "Vatican. The Treasury of Saint Peter "published in 1987 by Editions du Rocher. This voluminous work is not only a historical novel: it provides a large number of keys, the key "Secretary of State." We advise the abbot Ricossa to read particular pages 659 to 662 ... Malachi Martin had learned a lot in the Vatican, including the "Market" that binds the world to the Church through the Masonic Lodge ...We'll talk about it again further on but the it’s on the boil! (couldn’t figure that out.)


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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 12:03:40 PM »
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  • The whole Card Rampolla scam is based on 1 fraudulent piece of paper. This is very similar to the hoax claiming Fr Feeney was censored or ex-communicated because he failed to show up in Rome.

    What specifically does the Fraud M Martin have to say about Rampolla?
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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 05:57:56 PM »
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  • BTW-- Merry Del Val was consecrated bishop by Rampolla.
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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 07:31:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: roscoe
    The whole Card Rampolla scam is based on 1 fraudulent piece of paper. This is very similar to the hoax claiming Fr Feeney was censored or ex-communicated because he failed to show up in Rome.

    What specifically does the Fraud M Martin have to say about Rampolla?


    This was just part of the article. I think I'll just have to summarize the rest of it.

     Roscoe, does it stand to reason that Bishop Jouin would have implored Franz Josef to intervene at the conclave if he was not absolutely certain that Rampolla was Luciferian? Does it stand to reason that the Polish Cardinal who presented the veto at the conclave would have done so without being convinced that a mason was about to ascend to the Chair of Peter?

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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 09:13:33 PM »
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  • It is Franz Joseph that is the Freemason and it is in his name the the veto was attempted. You tell me who the good guy is.
    Poncins says of Jouin...." The only accusation that can be brought against him is that he was a man of great kindness: sometimes too kind in welcoming collaborators who were below the standards required for his magazine".

    Msg Jouin was duped.

    Does it stand to reason that Popes Leo and Pius would recognise Card Rampolla as GM of Knights of Malta and appoint him as Sec of State and Pres of Pontifical Commision of Biblical Studies? and Arch-Priest of Vatican Cathedral as well as Prefect of Vatican library if Rampolla was a nefarious character? Do U realise what the OTO is? We are talking Crowley and Manson and Bundy and Koresh and Gilles de Rais and de Sade and Kinsey and Tiny Tim and Jack The Ripper.

    Just how dumb do people calling themselves Catholic think Popes Leo and Pius are???
     
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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 12:05:49 AM »
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    Do U realise what the OTO is? We are talking Crowley and Manson and Bundy and Koresh and Gilles de Rais and de Sade and Kinsey and Tiny Tim and Jack The Ripper.


    David Koresh was OTO???!!!

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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 12:18:08 AM »
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  • Literally-- not that I am aware of. It is the same thing though: Mind Kontrolle, Torture Pedophilia etc.

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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 08:43:02 AM »
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  • continued from above...this takes us a third of the way through the article.

    On the affiliation of the felon Rampolla the Marquis had learned enough from Bishop Jouin, it was necessary to do some inspection vis-à-vis the Vatican, to have acquired an absolute certainty. Rampolla was a traitor and  the work of denouncing him was done to keep such an abomination from happening again, a Luciferian inducted into the Chair Peter! And this shocked the editors of "Sodalitium"! to whom will declare whether the Chair is vacant.

    Why this indulgence vis-à-vis Rampolla? This execrable character should be denounced as we have done. Similarly we do not slander our own Saint Pius X, Benedict XV and Pius XII that we have high estimates, especially St. Pius X and Pius XII. We just mentioned the American Heimbichner - and we of course agree with him -, we read his book with pen in hand, which he wrote equipped with considerable literature on the OTO, necessary for writing his scary book and exposing the actions of the Luciferian OTO. He has also learned a lot about the "legacy" of the felon Rampolla and the agents he trained and planted in the Church after his removal  from the "Throne of St. Peter." The termites formed by him have accomplished a work (Vatican II) which would be the death of the Church. As for those who have rubbed Rampolla, they could not avoid being contaminated by his pestilent fragrance...


    There is no question for us to slander the Church and its priests, to drag in the mud along the entire length an article, to exceed all bounds of decency as we accuse  the abbot Ricossa of doing.

    One wonders if we are not seeing things by reading Ricossa Father, he writes: "So we start our trial, recalling that already during his lifetime, Cardinal Rampolla was never tried in the courts of /.../ the Church for this alleged Masonic affiliation: It would have been the duty of anyone who had suspicions in the matter, to denounce the violation of ecclesiastical authority to canon 2335, which prohibits on pain of excommunication registration for the FM, with the clergy, the penalty of suspension and deprivation of any profit, office, dignity, pension and ecclesiastical (canon 2336 § 1). In the absence of an ecclesiastical trial, and in total ignorance of divine judgment, it is with the arguments of the historian, which always remain the docuмents and only the docuмents that we refer to as we try to get closer to the truth "!

    We rub your eyes after reading these lines! What emerges from this scholarly prose and pseudo moralizing the naivety of the clergy will always be as unfathomable as human stupidity! Need I remind you that Rampolla's membership - reported by Cardinal Merry del Val, Bishop Marty, the Marquis of Franquerie Felix Lacointa ... - was not known until after the death of the traitor and the general public, in the late 20's! It should be noted for those who do not know. Rampolla was that Secretary of State of Pope Leo XIII, that is to say, the second character of the Church after the Pope. At this level, and given the level of education, science, etiquette, ...( the Princes of the Church - and it must be recognized Rampolla was of this caliber, unfortunately) – they do not commit the error (in the interests of the anti-Church) of trailing docuмents and other damning items for which the sect requires of its followers absolute caution and absolute monitoring. Yet God allowed that Rampolla commit errors of this order and they were discovered among his papers after his death so we could have proof of his treachery.

    How this happens exactly? Here: the death of Cardinal felon, was found on him a key which gave access in a metal cabinet where personal discoveries were evidence of the affiliation of the deceased cardinal with secret societies (FM, OTO, ...) and the sources of his negative role. It was in these circuмstances that the docuмents were brought to St. Pius X, the holy pontiff. Appalled, but wanting to preserve the memory of the prelate and dishonored felon, and in order to avoid a scandal, says very moved, "Poor fellow! Burn! ". And papers were thrown into the fire in his presence. We will see below, in an appendix to his article, Father Ricossa brazenly deny these facts and take a rabbit out of his hat, the "testimony" from a reader in Switzerland. We will see what to think. Precision Extra: OTO published in Zurich a periodical entitled "Oriflamme" which includes the membership of the Cardinal felon. It was also reported in a book exclusively for FM: the "Europäische Freimaurer Kalender "1966, published in Germany in Baden-Baden.

    The Marquis de La Franquerie had learned this information from Monsignor Jouin, Bishop Marty, in detail, and we preserved it. Unfortunately, this is the tangible evidence that St. Pius X burned to preserve the memory of the felon and to avoid a scandal, evidence that the abbot Ricossa would like to see on his desk that we cannot provide ...

    But there is the testimony of those who knew and we cannot send to the trash with a single stroke of the pen or treat as liars men like Monsignor Jouin and Marquis de La Franquerie ... It is important also to address this serious challenge the testimony of credible persons from the abbot Ricossa. This is simply to accuse them of llying. Such methods are unacceptable, scandalous, especially when accompanied by their "demonstration" of circuitous routes, and distorted evidence. And Father Ricossa cited in support of his thesis about which unnatural remarks which circulated after talks with Benedict XV, remarks "falsified" which occasioned at a time of great turmoil in the political and diplomatic circles. And that's it! A little easier, is not it, but let us not take this game!

    We ourselves have witnessed the amazing and we have no physical evidence to administer the truth. The fact remains that these things have really taken place and will remain etched in our memory indelibly! "Testis unis testis nullus" says the Latin adage, perhaps, but the facts are facts and a single witness may have seen or heard extraordinary things without being able to administer evidence. So!

    At that price you can challenge all the Masonic infiltration into the Church by the absence of material evidence, a "tangible historical docuмent" so dear to the historian! ! ! And we could conclude: my dear friends, Deo Gratias!, We have great news for you: there is no Masonic infiltration in the Church! This was only a figment of the imagination, the finding of excessive and fanatical Catholics, who say without any physical evidence monstrosities that undermine the dignity and honor of the people! ! !


    Father Ricossa claims there was no divine sanction! But if, reverend sir, there was a divine sanction beautiful was the election of a saint, that all "traditionalists" worship: Saint Pius X in place of traitor Rampolla which logically should be elected. The veto of the Emperor of Austria had no reason to be serious against Rampolla if those who knew then (Monsignor Jouin) had not pressed the Emperor of Austria to involve in emergency Cardinal Puzyna! With this veto Saint Pius X was elected! Here it is Divine Punishment! ! ! We will add, as an aside, the chancery and the intelligence services must have docuмentation of paramount importance unknown to mere mortals. But these diplomatic circles and intelligence agencies are silent as tombs. It will also be difficult to obtain physical evidence.


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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 01:02:39 PM »
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  • The above is absolutely Filled with Lies. It is Franz-Joseph that is the Freemason and acc to Kertzer  'surrounded by Judaixxxx'.
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    « Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 02:46:22 PM »
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  • If Card Rampolla was a GM of OTO then Leo XIII and St Pius X are anti-popes. Don Ricossa is on the money when he describes an attack on Rampolla as nothing less than an attack on the Church Herself.
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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 02:52:14 PM »
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  • Could someone pls explain why Don Ricossa is described as a 'renegade' follower of Ab Lefevbre?
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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 02:53:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: roscoe
    If Card Rampolla was a GM of OTO then Leo XIII and St Pius X are anti-popes. Don Ricossa is on the money when he describes an attack on Rampolla as nothing less than an attack on the Church Herself.


    Unless you can adduce evidence of their knowing complicity (or knowing silence), I would say the "anti-Pope" appellation is rash, especially in the instance of a canonized Pope.  Inadvertent ignorance does not share in the sins of others.

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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #12 on: October 30, 2011, 03:13:01 PM »
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  • I did not say they were anti-popes-- others are. There is No Way they could not know. This whole story is not only absurd, it is the Height of Absurdity.
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    « Reply #13 on: October 30, 2011, 06:10:42 PM »
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  • He says Pius X did not know about Rampolla until after he died. You did see the part about Rampolla and his key that he carried around with him. When Rampolla died they took the key and opened his secret cabinet and found their evidence. Pius X was shown the papers, called the man a wretch and burned them.

    This according to the writer who knew The Marquis of Franquerie, "the right hand man of Bishop Jouin". Who says his membership with the OTO was also reported by Cardinal Merry del Val, Bishop Marty, Felix Lacointa

    So far in the article they do not mention Franz Joseph.

    The website is Louis Hubert Remy's who is similar to Hutton Gibson in his views (and who he links to in various places in the website) Hutton will refer to the SSPX CMRI as renegades or wildcats etc. Priest without jurisdiction.

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    Response to Father Ricossas defense of Rampolla
    « Reply #14 on: October 30, 2011, 07:10:37 PM »
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    He says Pius X did not know about Rampolla until after he died. You did see the part about Rampolla and his key that he carried around with him. When Rampolla died they took the key and opened his secret cabinet and found their evidence. Pius X was shown the papers, called the man a wretch and burned them.

    This according to the writer who knew The Marquis of Franquerie, "the right hand man of Bishop Jouin". Who says his membership with the OTO was also reported by Cardinal Merry del Val, Bishop Marty, Felix Lacointa

    So far in the article they do not mention Franz Joseph.

    The website is Louis Hubert Remy's who is similar to Hutton Gibson in his views (and who he links to in various places in the website) Hutton will refer to the SSPX CMRI as renegades or wildcats etc. Priest without jurisdiction.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'