If the second Misreatur vestri and Indulgentian absolutionem (as well as the second Confiteor) were removed from the 1962 missal, venial sins at 1962 Masses are not remitted before one approaches Communion. Is this a sacrilege? Is prevention of such a sacrilege why the Church put these prayers in the Mass in the first place. Is this why the SSPX generally inserts this part into their Masses, even though that isn’t strictly following the 62 missal?

If the second Misreatur vestri and Indulgentian absolutionem (as well as the second Confiteor) were removed from the 1962 missal, venial sins at 1962 Masses are not remitted before one approaches Communion. Is this a sacrilege? Is prevention of such a sacrilege why the Church put these prayers in the Mass in the first place. Is this why the SSPX generally inserts this part into their Masses, even though that isn’t strictly following the 62 missal?

I've never been to a Traditional chapel, SSPX or otherwise, 1962 or otherwise, that doesn't have the second Confiteor.

Maybe some Indult groups follow the 1962 "to the letter" because they have to or something, but I've never been to such a Mass.

If the second Misreatur vestri and Indulgentian absolutionem (as well as the second Confiteor) were removed from the 1962 missal, ...

Happy & Holy New Year. Puer natus es...

Objectively speaking, communion of the faithful is NOT part of the mass.  A priest can celebrate mass alone (normally though with a servant) and it is completely legit and valid, of course. You don't need any faithful present for the Trad mass. It is the unbloody Sacrifice offered to God by the priest.

    My old 'Missel Quotidien St Joseph' missal  (Copyright 1962) has a clear demarcation for what is the : "Communion of the Faithful". The French rubric says: 'If communion is not distributed, we pass over the part in red Brackets'. see attached photo.


  But then you get these modernists who insist that the mass is basically a meal, "Supper", people of God, community blah blah...  The New Mass is, I suppose, really awkward if no one is present.  So the  N.Ordo ommision reflects this bigtime: They removed the second Confiteor because now communion has become an integral part of their NEW LITURGY.

  In days gone by, with the strict fast from water or food from midnight, it was a practice to give communion very early Sunday mornings, so, outside of mass, as Lads alluded to. My parents told me this. After that communion, people would go have breakfast at the relatives...some would have fainted otherwise, esp expecting mothers...

  In my opinion, the removal of the Second Confiteor is a creeping modernist decision.

I also remember Fr. Paul Aulagnier, R.I.P.+ ( the first one to contact +L waaay back), told us in Suresnes that he was travelling with 3 others in a car (de Mallerais etc. ) and they were discussing if the second Confiteor should be kept or not - as they were driving!!! He said: "THE FUTURE of the Mass is in this car!" He ended with a big laugh, as usual.
SSPX has always kept it - now you know!!

The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostrm, used by Eastern Catholics, does not contain a Confiteor, penitential rite, or similar prayers of any kind.

Well, there's is generally a combined act of faith in the Real Presence, and a profession of unworthiness, and begging God's Mercy.  There's no absolution, but I would consider that prayer to most certainly be a penitential Rite of sorts.

I believe, O Lord, and confess that You are truly Christ, the Son of the living God, Who came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am first. Accept me this day, O Son of God, as a partaker of Your mystical Supper. I will not tell Your Mystery to Your enemies, nor will I give You a kiss as did Judas, but like the thief, I confess to You: † Remember me, O Lord, when You come into Your kingdom. † Remember me, O Master, when You come into Your kingdom. 19 † Remember me, O Holy One, when You come into Your kingdom. May the partaking of Your Holy Mysteries, O Lord, be unto me not for judgment or condemnation, but for the healing of soul and body. † God, be merciful to me, a sinner. † God, cleanse me of my sins and have mercy on me. † I have sinned without number, forgive me, O Lord.

I do have some concern about the Eastern Rite's lack of emphasis on Confession, often wondering how many people say this prayer and think they can therefore receive Holy Communion in a state of mortal sin.  I know that the Ukrainian priest I know (brother of Major Archbishop Shevchuk) often appealed to the faithful to go to Confession from the pulpit, but he never clearly explained that "if you're in a state of mortal sin, you can't receive Holy Communion".  I have this sneaking suspicion that for many of them, unless they've committed murder, grand theft, adultery, or fornication, they probably don't understand what a mortal sin even is.

I actually severed ties with Father Shevchuk a couple years ago.  I got annoyed with his shilling for Ukrainians vs. Russia, evidently unaware that the same Jews behind the Holodomor and Communism are the ones behind this absurd war that's doing nothing but sending Ukrainians into the meat grinder.  But that was just annoyance.  When at one Divine Liturgy they were praying for "the IDF" during the Divine Liturgy, after October 7, when they were perpetrting genocide already, and they prayed for them during the Liturgy, which I considered to be a sacrilege.