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Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2021, 10:51:23 PM »
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  • Absolutely R&R started it.  Sometimes there’s truth to it.  To paraphrase Johnson, R&R is here crying out in pain as he strikes you.

    So R&R start a fight and you attack sedevacantists for fighting.

    That's a matter of opinion.

    You can't take each episode as if it's completely isolated from everything else.
    This is just one BATTLE in the overall WAR.

    So it's not significant at all that Fr. Ribeiro was a Resistance priest, and Bp. Sanborn poached/recruited him into sedevacantism?

    I'm sure Bp. Sanborn stayed TOTALLY neutral as Fr. Ribeiro spoke with him about it...  ::)
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #31 on: August 30, 2021, 10:56:54 PM »
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  • Apparently Bishop Williamson knows a bit more about him than you or I...

    Does he really?  You know that for a fact?  If so, then he has an obligation to come out with what he knows ... to thwart the impending consecration.  Will he give Bishop Dolan a call and tell him what he knows ... just as he was warned about Urrutigoity?

    Bishop Williamson didn’t train this priest but simply took the word of someone he trusted who presented him for ordination.  I doubt he knew very much about him in the first place and probably doesn’t know much more now.

    He failed to explain what he’s basing his opinion on.  Does he know the man to be intellectually incompetent to run a seminary?  Is it just his age?  Or is it based solely on his sedevacantism?  We don’t know.

    Closest thing to an explanation is the allegation that Fr. left the Resistance for his own personal glory.  How is that determined?  Is it possible that he was sincerely following his conscience?  If not, then why not?


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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #32 on: August 30, 2021, 11:06:50 PM »
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  • Does he really?  You know that for a fact?  If so, then he has an obligation to come out with what he knows ... to thwart the impending consecration.  Will he give Bishop Dolan a call and tell him what he knows ... just as he was warned about Urrutigoity?

    I still trust Bp. Williamson, and apparently you don't (my guess would be that your trust in him was lost after the Urrutigoity mistake).

    From reading Bp. Sanborn's own words online, it's clear he would always bring in another priest/bishop to help in the Great War of sedevacantism. For his part, Bp. Sanborn is VERY partisan.

    You gotta admit, Bp. Williamson is correct if only accidentally. If he had stayed in the Resistance, would Fr. Ribeiro be preparing for his imminent consecration? No. But since his conscience oh-so-conveniently HAPPENED to lead him to sedevacantism, now he's going to be a young bishop. He's going to be the Big Man. The Boss. Lots of power, and the money/attention/luxuries that go with that. Hmm...  

    Heaven help any man who becomes a bishop when it wasn't God's idea. Especially if he doesn't have the virtues to handle the position.

    I think Bp. Williamson is correct, that when a person "converts" to something and then instantly finds fame/fortune/promotion as a result, it can be highly dangerous. The motivation for the initial conversion itself becomes suspect.
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #33 on: August 30, 2021, 11:11:10 PM »
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  • Now, I would imagine that Bishop Dolan would have vetted him just a little bit himself before agreeing to a consecration.  He doesn’t have the reputation as some Thuc bishops do of ordaining anyone who has a pulse.

    Jury’s out in my mind.  Let’s here the actual facts.

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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #34 on: August 30, 2021, 11:12:27 PM »
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  • Now, I would imagine that Bishop Dolan would have vetted him just a little bit himself before agreeing to a consecration.  He doesn’t have the reputation as some Thuc bishops do of ordaining anyone who has a pulse.

    Jury’s out in my mind.  Let’s here the actual facts.

    Might as well lock the thread then. No one on CathInfo has any facts/evidence to add about this Brazilian priest. It's all going to be nothing more than classic, worn-out, sede vs. R&R bloviating.

    I know CathInfo has a long reach, but it would have to be long indeed to have any information about an obscure Brazilian priest. Just for starters, this is an English-speaking forum.
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