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Offline Texana

Re: Red Alert! Are the Sedevacantists the Only True Followers of Abp. Lefebvre?
« Reply #210 on: January 22, 2024, 05:26:30 PM »
Dear MiracleOfTheSun,

There is a story repeated by some (Dom Hesse included) that when Pope Pius IX was approached by the clergy proposing the insertion of the name of St. Joseph into the Canon, he simply answered: "I am only the pope." While this may be attributed to his humility, the truth is he knew that he could not do it (bound by the Council of Trent), hence the quote.
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Re: Red Alert! Are the Sedevacantists the Only True Followers of Abp. Lefebvre?
« Reply #211 on: January 22, 2024, 07:08:54 PM »
In this video produced by the Vatican Ecclesia Dei Commission, listen at timestamp 16:42. You will understand that "St. Joseph in the Canon" change was a deception.

The Missal of John XXIII that was promulgated and published in 1962 (as authorized in Summorum Pontificuм) did not include the "St. Joseph" addition. The change to the Canon is and was, therefore, illegal. 

It was never officially promulgated by John XXIII in a legal docuмent and published in an approved Missal in the year 1962.

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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

Re: Red Alert! Are the Sedevacantists the Only True Followers of Abp. Lefebvre?
« Reply #212 on: January 22, 2024, 11:56:52 PM »
Quote from: Texana on January 22, 2024, 05:26:30 PM
Dear MiracleOfTheSun,

There is a story repeated by some (Dom Hesse included) that when Pope Pius IX was approached by the clergy proposing the insertion of the name of St. Joseph into the Canon, he simply answered: "I am only the pope." While this may be attributed to his humility, the truth is he knew that he could not do it (bound by the Council of Trent), hence the quote.
On the face of it, who could really complain about adding Saint Joseph?  But at the end of the day it's just another item that needed to be changed.  Sounds like Obama's 'change'.  Obama, keep the change.
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Red Alert! Are the Sedevacantists the Only True Followers of Abp. Lefebvre?
« Reply #213 on: January 23, 2024, 06:16:19 AM »
Quote from: Texana on January 22, 2024, 05:26:30 PM
Dear MiracleOfTheSun,

There is a story repeated by some (Dom Hesse included) that when Pope Pius IX was approached by the clergy proposing the insertion of the name of St. Joseph into the Canon, he simply answered: "I am only the pope." While this may be attributed to his humility, the truth is he knew that he could not do it (bound by the Council of Trent), hence the quote.
Does the SSPX say St Joseph and does that make the mass invalid?
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Offline Philip

Re: Red Alert! Are the Sedevacantists the Only True Followers of Abp. Lefebvre?
« Reply #214 on: January 23, 2024, 07:29:37 AM »
John XXIII's command issued in the decree Novis hisce temporibus can be found in the AAS:

https://www.vatican.va/archive/aas/docuмents/AAS-54-1962-ocr.pdf

See page 873  'De S. Ioseph nomine Canoni Missae inserendo'
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