Author Topic: Red Alert! Are the Sedevacantists the Only True Followers of Abp. Lefebvre? (Read 23649 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #195 on:** January 21, 2024, 05:06:52 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on January 21, 2024, 05:01:13 AM

I would be surprised if he responded any differently, and yet, there it is, +ABL explaining what he believes una cuм means. Per the link, +ABL says it means, and I quote him here: "WE ASK TO KEEP THE POPE IN THE TRUE RELIGION."

Now we are supposed to believe that +ABL decided not to pray for the pope any more, after he just said that he believes the above? This is reasonable, how?

When I said "he" I was referring to Bishop Roy.

2Vermont · « **Reply #196 on:** January 21, 2024, 05:14:03 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on January 21, 2024, 04:48:42 AM

Put it this way...
2V, put the shoe on the other foot for just a minute......if an una cuм bishop said he was told multiple times by another una cuм priest that Fr. Cekada told this priest that in his last years Fr. Cekada celebrated the Mass una cuм, would you simply roll over and accept that? Do you think Lad would? Do you think any sede would?

This other shoe is just as unfathomable to you, but possible and acceptable to me, as +ABL celebrating the Mass non-una cuм is unfathomable to me, but possible and acceptable to you.

Oh I understand why you have trouble with it. I never said I didn't. I agree that it does seem odd. What I am saying is I don't like how you're implying that both of these men LIED.

And although I would highly doubt Fr C would have changed his ways/views before death, there is always a possibility. Then again he rarely waffled whereas there are numerous quotes from ABL that don't condemn sedevacantism.

Stubborn · « **Reply #197 on:** January 21, 2024, 05:16:14 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on January 21, 2024, 05:06:52 AM

When I said "he" I was referring to Bishop Roy.

Yes, so was I. I'd be surprised if he reacted any differently.

Stubborn · « **Reply #198 on:** January 21, 2024, 05:21:25 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on January 21, 2024, 05:14:03 AM

Oh I understand why you have trouble with it. I never said I didn't. I agree that it does seem odd. What I am saying is I don't like how you're implying that both of these men LIED.

As I said earlier, "Personally I believe they are repeating a lie they think is the truth."

That's what I believe for all the reasons I've already given. I mean, you either believe he said the Mass non una cuм or you don't. I do not believe +ABL did, any more than you could believe the other shoe.

Stubborn · « **Reply #199 on:** January 21, 2024, 05:33:47 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on January 21, 2024, 05:14:03 AM

And although I would highly doubt Fr C would have changed his ways/views before death, there is always a possibility. Then again he rarely waffled whereas there are numerous quotes from ABL that don't condemn sedevacantism.

Well, I agree, but +ABL preached repeatedly that he believed he was praying for the pope una cuм, this is what he believed in.

Fr. Cekada preached ad nauseam that he did not believe the pope was the pope and believed it wrong (a sin?) to pray for a heretic pope una cuм, this is what he believed in.

What the OP video is telling us, is that +ABL did not believe what he repeatedly preached, the other shoe says the same about Fr. Cekada.

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Author Topic: Red Alert! Are the Sedevacantists the Only True Followers of Abp. Lefebvre? (Read 23649 times)

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