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Roman Catholic · « **on:** September 26, 2010, 04:41:47 AM »

The Pope publicly shook hands with a woman priest for the first time last night as he joined the Archbishop of Canterbury in an ecuмenical service at Westminster Abbey.

Pope Benedict XVI greeted Rev Dr Jane Hedges, canon steward of the Abbey and a campaigner for women bishops, as he arrived ahead of an hour-long prayer service.

Dr Hedges was also among those leading prayers – which marked the first visit of any Pontiff to Westminster Abbey

But the Pope extended the hand of friendship to the Church of England last night as he paid tribute to “the heart and the spirit of the English people” and declared: “we are forcibly reminded that what we share in Christ is greater than what continues to divide us.”

The choir of Westminster sang as the Pope and Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, entered the Abbey in procession with other Church leaders from England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales, led by Dr John Hall, the Dean of Westminster.

The Archbishop wore his mitre while the Pope wore a stole as they proceeded side by side through the nave.

When they reached the sanctuary, Dr Williams welcomed the Pope “on behalf of the Christian communities of Great Britain,” adding: “may your visit be a blessing for all who share with you in pilgrimage and discipleship”.

The Pope responded: “I come here today as a Pilgrim from Rome to pray before the tomb of Edward the Confessor. May these moments of prayer and friendship confirm us in our love for Jesus Christ”.

The Pope gave thanks for the "remarkable progress" made towards ecuмenical unity.

Prayers were read before the Pope and the Archbishop performed a joint act of veneration – stooping to kiss the Canterbury Gospels, thought to have been brought to Britain from Rome in 597 AD by St Augustine.

The service concluded as the 2000-strong congregation recited the Lord’s Prayer. The Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury then knelt and prayed for unity at the shrine of Edward the Confessor – the penultimate Anglo Saxon King of England who was canonised by Pope Alexander III in 1161.

Benedict XVI shook incense towards the tomb of the monarch, who is regarded as a saint by both churches.

A concluding prayer was read simultaneously by the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Full story:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/the-pope/8010064/Pope-shakes-hands-with-woman-priest-in-historic-service-at-Abbey.html

Telesphorus · « **Reply #1 on:** September 26, 2010, 04:56:23 AM »

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“we are forcibly reminded that what we share in Christ is greater than what continues to divide us.”

How could one say this without meaning that Anglicans are members of the Church?

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #2 on:** September 26, 2010, 06:04:04 AM »

It's the V2 myth of partial communion.

Heresy and insanity.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #3 on:** September 26, 2010, 06:11:02 AM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

It's the V2 myth of partial communion.

Heresy and insanity.

You would have to believe they are not culpable for their wicked positions on moral issues, their false theology and sacrilegious rituals.

Since the Anglicans endorse crimes against nature that is certainly impossible.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #4 on:** September 26, 2010, 06:25:45 AM »

None of that matters to Modernist-Ecuмaniacs like Ratzinger and his cohorts.

They are in love with their errors.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #5 on:** September 26, 2010, 08:06:36 AM »

Harlot and Antichrist action

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 26, 2010, 11:52:06 AM »

And you know that the novus ordo conservatives will white
wash this event as no big deal.
Lucky that the shrine to St. Edward the Confessor and the
Gospel Book he brought in the 6th century to England,
survived the protestant reformation, and all the destruction
brought by oliver cromwell in the 16th century.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #7 on:** September 26, 2010, 04:13:11 PM »

No surprise. Modernist priests and bishops do the same thing. The Pope should stop encouraging such trash.

Alexandria · « **Reply #8 on:** September 27, 2010, 12:34:13 PM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

And you know that the novus ordo conservatives will white
wash this event as no big deal.
Lucky that the shrine to St. Edward the Confessor and the
Gospel Book he brought in the 6th century to England,
survived the protestant reformation, and all the destruction
brought by oliver cromwell in the 16th century.

The neo-cons are so used to this nonsense that it doesn't even matter to them anymore.

They will go and do likewise. Except, don't expect them to darken the doorways of an SSPX or sede chapel; they fear they will lose their souls if they do.

Belloc · « **Reply #9 on:** September 27, 2010, 12:58:18 PM »

true, the term "schismatic" gets thrown around a lot, though a good chance to again post the words of Athanasius here (emphesis mine):

“May God console you! ... What saddens you ... is the fact that others have occupied the Churches by violence, while during this time you are on the outside. It is a fact that they have the premises -- but you have the apostolic faith. They can occupy our churches, but they are outside the true faith. You remain outside the places of worship, but the faith dwells within you. Let us consider: what is more important, the place or the faith? The true faith, obviously. Who has lost and who has won in this struggle -- the one who keeps the premises or the one who keeps the faith?

“True, the premises are good when the apostolic faith is preached there; they are holy if everything takes place there in a holy way ...

“You are the ones who are happy; you who remain within the Church by your faith, who hold firmly to the foundations of the faith which has come down to you from apostolic tradition, and if an execrable jealously has tried to shake it in a number of occasions, it has not succeeded. They are the ones who have broken away from it in the present crisis.

“No one, ever, will prevail against your faith, beloved brothers, and we believe that God will give us our Churches back some day.

“Thus, the more violently they try to occupy the places of worship, the more they separate themselves from the Church. They claim that they represent the Church but in reality they are the ones who are expelling themselves from it and going astray.

“Even if Catholics faithful to tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ. (Coll. Selecta SS. Eccl. Patrum. Caillu and Guillou, Vol. 32, pp 411-412).”

Belloc · « **Reply #10 on:** September 27, 2010, 12:59:15 PM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

It's the V2 myth of partial communion.

Heresy and insanity.

what they say about Orthodox, since sacrements and priesthood are valid-ergo, no need to convert them...silliness, the Priestly Society of St. Josphat denounces....

Belloc · « **Reply #11 on:** September 27, 2010, 01:02:17 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Roman Catholic
It's the V2 myth of partial communion.

Heresy and insanity.

You would have to believe they are not culpable for their wicked positions on moral issues, their false theology and sacrilegious rituals.

Since the Anglicans endorse crimes against nature that is certainly impossible.

he did not it was heresy, might want to put down the GOP newsletter and re-read post...heresy implies someone did something wrong, no?

Belloc · « **Reply #12 on:** September 27, 2010, 01:03:58 PM »

Quote from: Alexandria

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
And you know that the novus ordo conservatives will white
wash this event as no big deal.
Lucky that the shrine to St. Edward the Confessor and the
Gospel Book he brought in the 6th century to England,
survived the protestant reformation, and all the destruction
brought by oliver cromwell in the 16th century.

The neo-cons are so used to this nonsense that it doesn't even matter to them anymore.

They will go and do likewise. Except, don't expect them to darken the doorways of an SSPX or sede chapel; they fear they will lose their souls if they do.

Most of NO is a new religion, they have not had the courage to say and act so and leave...they think they are the true Catholic faith......they stay to corrupt, though if the ages at Trad Masses vs NO are any indication, they are dying out....also, the NO has less children...so in a certain sense, it is a numbers game....

MyrnaM · « **Reply #13 on:** September 27, 2010, 01:50:41 PM »

Hard to believe that some can still believe a pope can be a pope of two religions.

Belloc · « **Reply #14 on:** September 27, 2010, 03:04:30 PM »

Then whose is he?

hard to belevie in those great Catholic schools of hte 50's AMericanism was never warned about, but as that movement won oout, there is a good reason, aint it!

There is a rupture, but neither group is willing to walk away, since the NO is a counterfeit group, they themselves do not realize they outside the main... B16 is as divided and confused as most others...

hard to belevie too that some can think they have authority to just say "heck, he aint no stinkin pope" on their own lay authority...though the evidence mounts...

See my recent post on Papalotry...

also, hard to believe all these months later, still no Sedes-only forum.....but, we live in strange and confusing times, no?