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Offline Melanie

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Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2022, 07:01:10 AM »
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  • They'll just claim he didn't really write that letter.  Any word from Brother Bugnolo?
    Are we really supposed to believe that these Benevacantists have discovered a papal imposter starting in 2013?  With every ounce of charity that I can muster I still can not believe that these people are mentally defective.  I see their writing; it’s delusional exclusively to time before 2013.  When something doesn’t make sense it just may not be quite true.  I just don’t believe they are sincere.  I think they run interference for the New Order.

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #16 on: October 24, 2022, 07:03:50 AM »
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  • Are we really supposed to believe that these Benevacantists have discovered a papal imposter starting in 2013?  With every ounce of charity that I can muster I still can not believe that these people are mentally defective.  I see their writing; it’s delusional exclusively to time before 2013.  When something doesn’t make sense it just may not be quite true.  I just don’t believe they are sincere.  I think they run interference for the New Order.
    Well, I happen to believe the whole Rat resignation was to create this very situation.


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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #17 on: October 24, 2022, 07:09:32 AM »
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  • Well, I happen to believe the whole Rat resignation was to create this very situation.
    Yeah, I’m with you.  These people live and breath scheming and deceiving and being sneaky little sons of guns.  I am so disgusted with these scuм of the earth between the New Order hoax and the Plandemic.  We made a big huge mistake ever believing we could live and let live.  No, the enemy won’t just leave you alone, they will yoke you and make you slaves eating worms if you allow it.

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #18 on: October 24, 2022, 07:37:27 AM »
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  • You have to marvel at the mental somersaults required for Benevacantists(Ann Barnhardt for example)
    to believe that Ratzinger is any different than Bergoglio or JPII.
    Passages from his countless books would probably make Bergoglio jealous in terms of how audacious
    his heresies were....and apparently remain
    Yes, Ratzinger poo-pooed the Resurrection in one of his books in the '60's and again in his more recent  book "Jesus of Nazareth".He is just another modernist student of Rahner.

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #19 on: October 24, 2022, 07:41:06 AM »
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  • Ann needs to wake up. 

    Ratzinger was major lukewarm.  He never spoke up against Bergolio.  Did he say anything publicly to denounce pachimama scandal??
    No, and why would he? Both he and JPII committed the same, if not worse, acts of apostasy during their "papacies"
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #20 on: October 24, 2022, 07:53:14 AM »
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  • Vatican II: We knew that the relationship between the Church and the modern period had been slightly fraught, beginning with the Church’s error in the case of Galileo Galilei. We were looking to correct this mistaken start and to rediscover the union between the Church and the best forces of the world, so as to open up humanity’s future, to open up true progress [with Vatican II].

    Pope Benedict XVI’s resignation speech, Feb. 11th, 2013.

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #21 on: October 24, 2022, 07:55:50 AM »
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  • Absurd Original Sin

    Having quoted Genesis 3:1-12, 17-19, 23-24; Cardinal Ratzinger continues his homilies to give us a Big Bang understanding ‘On the Subject of Sin.’

    ‘The account [in Genesis] tells us that sin begets sin, and that therefore all the sins of history are interlinked. Theology refers to this state of affairs by the certainly misleading and imprecise term ‘original sin.’ What does this mean? Nothing seems to us today to be stranger or, indeed, more absurd than to insist upon original sin, since, according to our way of thinking, guilt can only be something very personal and since God does not run a cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ, in which one’s relatives are imprisoned, because he is a liberating God of love, who calls each one by name. What does original sin mean, then, when we interpret it correctly?.... Sin is a loss of relationship,…therefore it is not restricted to the individual. At the very moment that a person begins human existence, he or she is confronted by a sin damaged world.’ Consequently, each person is, from the very start, damaged in relationships. (p, 72.)

    The traditional teaching of Genesis is that Adam and Eve committed the first sin of mankind called the Original Sin, a sin that is directly passed on to all their descendants, that is, the whole human race, the sin that necessitated God become man to die on the cross to open access to heaven once again. But now it undergoes modernisation. Never mentioned in this chapter was the sacrament of Baptism, necessary to rid the soul of Original Sin, and the means to enter heaven. Nor is there any reference to the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception wherein the mother of God was conceived in God’s love and without Original Sin. There followed in this homily, Ratzinger’s version of sin being something to do with the network of human relationships damaged from the beginning.

    Offline Donachie

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #22 on: October 24, 2022, 08:06:14 AM »
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  • It was necessary to serve the Jews, the Jews of the worldwide communist conspiracy and the Bank of England and the Feral Rezerve Bank, to be subservient to the demands of the diabolical Jews and all that money power they have.

    ... and to expel Latin. The elimination of Latin has helped that progress. There were the Pater Nosters, Credos, and Ave Marias, and I forget the Glorias and words like benedicere et vobiscuм et ite et missa est. Now they have street talk and V2 talk-shop and fake trips to the Moon and Mars ...

    The circle of society has been ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic poisoned from the money from the bank to the collection baskets and Pat Robertson TV. Besides the course of the stars and fate,  V2 became "necessary" back then, and it must still be necessary now, of course, or even one could say the necessity has increased.

    However, this is an interesting example of Latin that still can be found on the worldwide internets today. Of course, it's not necessary, but rather strictly potential as Aristotle would say, and Zeno of Elea still can't leave his room not for problems of infinity but for fear of the Jews and the Big Bank.

    https://www.maranatha.it/MobileEdition/T15-MissaleRomanum1962/varie/ORDINARIO%20DELLA%20MESSA%20(Romano).pdf

    As (((Walter Rathenau))) wrote many years ago, little more than 100, "only 300 men, each of whom knows all others, govern the fate of Europe. They select their successors from their own entourage. These men have the means in their hands of putting an end to the form of the State which they find unreasonable." 


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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #23 on: October 24, 2022, 12:29:29 PM »
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  • VII was necessary in the same way that Bergoglio was necessary, so that more Catholics would start to realize how bad things really are.  

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #24 on: October 24, 2022, 01:23:20 PM »
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  • Are we really supposed to believe that these Benevacantists have discovered a papal imposter starting in 2013?  With every ounce of charity that I can muster I still can not believe that these people are mentally defective.  I see their writing; it’s delusional exclusively to time before 2013.  When something doesn’t make sense it just may not be quite true.  I just don’t believe they are sincere.  I think they run interference for the New Order.


    Yes, these Trad Inc podcasters who promote this garbage  appear to have too much intelligence and knowledge to remain completely ignorant about these blatant heresies.

    It appears they are setting Benedict to be the "Bishop in White" in the fake third secret.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #25 on: October 24, 2022, 02:27:06 PM »
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  • Which modernist theologian is the Holy Father again? 



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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #26 on: October 24, 2022, 02:27:50 PM »
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  • Which modernist theologian is the Holy Father again?



    Neither?

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #27 on: October 24, 2022, 02:34:17 PM »
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  • VII was necessary in the same way that Bergoglio was necessary, so that more Catholics would start to realize how bad things really are. 

    Agreed.  God allowed V2 as a purification.  Catholics in the 1940s and 1950s ... except for Father Feeney and his group ... were complacent that all was well, even though Modernisms had been festering among Catholics for decades and (to some extent) for centuries.

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #28 on: October 24, 2022, 04:21:25 PM »
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  • Agreed.  God allowed V2 as a purification.  Catholics in the 1940s and 1950s ... except for Father Feeney and his group ... were complacent that all was well, even though Modernisms had been festering among Catholics for decades and (to some extent) for centuries.
    So you don’t believe what the Catholic Church teaches on Baptism of Desire and Blood to begin with and think a fraudulent council, mass and claimants to the throne are Her just deserts and maybe now She’ll see it your way?  Baptism of Desire and Blood effects you in absolutely no way, assuming you are Baptized with water. If someone happens to sneak into Heaven in this way that you find illegitimate, why don’t you just mind your own business?

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    Re: Ratzinger: Vatican II Was Necessary
    « Reply #29 on: October 24, 2022, 04:56:03 PM »
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  • "Benedict XVI" at Revolution Palace in Havana (V2 necessities)

    The surrealistic photo above shows Pope Ratzinger at the Palácio de la Revolución, the Palace of the Revolution in Havana, made to boast the Communist victory over Catholicism in Cuba.

    He easily could have avoided going to that symbolic place, but he deliberately did so to show his respect for Cuban Communism and its dictator Raul Castro, whom he met there. The sun, in the stainglass window behind them, symbolizes the "light" of Communism spreading over the world ...


    https://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A463-RevPalace.htm