Author Topic: Raoul and NFP: Why? (Read 6469 times)

Caminus · « **Reply #15 on:** October 26, 2009, 07:17:14 AM »

A wise Catholic prince is married to a woman of the same class, or for certain physical traits with a hope of passing them to their progeny, is an form of "eugenics."

A man and woman who are certain to produce mutilated children are allowed to forego children altogether provided their will is upright. This is what was meant by a "eugenic indication."

Then there are evil forms of "eugenics" like advocated by the wicked M. Sanger.

You just don't like the word because it now has bad connotations.

CMMM · « **Reply #16 on:** October 26, 2009, 03:46:15 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

I know two happily married Catholic couples who would gladly pipe in on the issue of NFP and the fact that it's EVIL.

How long have they been married? How many children do they have?

Caminus · « **Reply #17 on:** October 26, 2009, 05:44:48 PM »

Raoul, is stealing mortally sinful? Is it contrary to the Divine Law? Yes or no, I refuse to read pages of rambling.

SJB · « **Reply #18 on:** October 27, 2009, 04:49:27 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

I think that this was carefully set up over time, the two responses from the Sacred Penitentiary in the 19th century, Casti Connubi, and then "Allocution to Midwives." You went from the laity occasionally using the rhythm method, which was mostly overlooked, to the Church actually TEACHING eugenic spacing of births or even elimination of births using a new souped-up form of the rhythm method. "Rhythm" went from being overlooked to being counselled to being taught from the Throne of Peter itself. This is pure gradualism, people were indoctrinated slowly.

You are claiming something heretical here, I'm afraid. The Pope confirms his brethern in the Faith. You are claiming he indoctrinates the Faithful in errors.

Caminus · « **Reply #19 on:** October 27, 2009, 04:13:46 PM »

Quote from: Caminus

Raoul, is stealing mortally sinful? Is it contrary to the Divine Law? Yes or no, I refuse to read pages of rambling.