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Jewish-Catholic Dialogue: Not an invitation to baptism
« on: October 07, 2009, 10:44:18 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 02:29:55 PM »
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  • Imagine my surprise.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 02:35:17 PM »
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    Now a clarification on the clarification has been issued.

    Its kind of like the Reform of the Reform. I'm almost wondering if there will be a clarification on the clarification on the original clarification.
    Pray for me, always.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 19, 2009, 04:39:23 PM »
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  • There is No Clarifying this issue, imo.

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    St. Matthew "Christ shall be slain, and the people who shall deny Him shall not be His." ~ Daniel 9: 26


    Crucifiers of Christ ought to be held in continual subjection. ~ Pope Innocent III


    The Gentiles ... have attained to justice, even to the justice is of the faith. But Israel ... has not come unto the law of justice. Why so? Because they sought it not by faith... For they stumbled at the Stumbling Stone.
    ~ Romans ix.30-32

    Many shall come from the East and West and sit down with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of Heaven, but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. ~ St. Matthew viii.11-12

     
    The Jews knew that Christ was the son of David. And even now they hope for His Coming. It is hidden from them that He has come, but it is hidden because they willed it so. For, not acknowledging Him on the cross, the knowledge of Him reigning in glory should not be theirs ... Why are the Jews hoping for what has already come, and not fearful for what is to come? For Our Lord Jesus Christ ... referred Himself as "the Stone" (Matthew xxi.44), that whoever stumbles upon it shall be bruised; but upon whom it shall fall, it will grind to powder ... Lying on the ground, it shakes whoever falls over it; coming from on high, it crushes the proud. The Jews have already been shaken by their previous stumble. What awaits them is to be crushed by His Coming. ~ St. Augustine

    The "exterior darkness" is that of the Jews, who have heard truth but not believed. ~ St. Thomas Aquinas

    Jews prefer to persist in their stubbornness rather than to recognize the words of their prophets and the mysteries of the Scriptures and thus arrive at a knowledge of the Christian faith and salvation. ~ Bl. Pope Gregory X

    The Jews are deprived of these good things, for they are not brought to life by Christ; for sin remains unwashed away in them; neither do they advance unto the kingdom of Heaven since they have dishonored Christ Who is the Guide to Heaven. For they did not believe Him when He said: "I am Way" and "I am the Door." ~ St. Eusebius of Caesaria

    Whence the Gospel says: "Two women shall be grinding at the mill; one shall be taken and the other left" (Matthew xxiv.42). The Holy Church shall be taken up into eternal rest: she who has ground the food of holiness unto the Lord. The Synagogue, stained with blood, shall be left at the mill, to endure its own unfaithfulness forever. ~ St. Maximus of Turin

     
    The Jewish people fell from the heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death. Their godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their disease. Besides usury, through which Jews everywhere have sucked dry the property of impoverished Christians, they are accomplices of thieves and robbers; and the most damaging aspect of the matter is that they allure the unsuspecting through magical incantations, superstition, and witchcraft to the Synagogue of Satan and boast of being able to predict the future. We have carefully investigated how this revolting sect abuses the name of Christ and how harmful they are to those whose life is threatened by their deceit. On account of these and other serious matters, and because of the gravity of their crimes which increase day to day more and more, We order that, within 90 days, all Jews in our entire earthly realm of justice -- in all towns, districts, and places -- must depart these regions. ~ Pope St. Pius V (From his Bull, "The Jewish Race," Feb.26, 1569; PAC, p.648).
     
    Pope St. Pius V
    The faithlessness of the Synagogue is an insult to the Savior. Therefore, He chose the barque of Peter and deserted the boat of Moses; that is, He rejected the faithless Synagogue and adopted the believing Church ... Of these two ships, one is left at the shore, idle and empty; the other, loaded filled, is launched into the deep. For the Synagogue is left idle on the beach. Because of its own fault, it has lost Christ along with the warnings of the prophets. But the freighted Church is taken out into the deep, because it received the Lord together with the teaching of the Apostles. The Synagogue, I say, remains on the land, held fast as it were to earthly things. The Church is called forth to the deep, as though to search into the profound mysteries of Heaven. ~ St. Ambrose

     

    St. Augustine, Bishop of Hippo Two nations are in thy womb, and two peoples shall be divided out of thy womb; one people shall overcome the other, and the elder shall serve the younger. ~ Genesis xxv:23

    Who is this younger child that overcomes the elder but the Gentiles, who struggle with Juda ... and who, though only the child of promise, supplants him who was the son according to the flesh? ~ Pope St. Leo the Great

    The Jews wander over the entire earth, their backs bent and their eyes cast downward, forever calling to our minds the curse they carry with them. ~ St. Augustine
     

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    « Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 01:47:36 PM »
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    Then what the Hell is the point of the "dialogue"?


    to talk endlessly to make themselves feel good and arrive at nothing......the others "unique path to God"
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    « Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 08:36:43 PM »
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  • They are heretics.  Anyone here disagree?

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    « Reply #6 on: October 30, 2009, 12:16:14 PM »
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    They are heretics.  Anyone here disagree?


    No........edging toward that One World religion Pius X warned against........
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


     

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