Author Topic: Randy Engel, Guest on Church Militant TV (Read 5465 times)

Nadir · « **on:** September 17, 2013, 03:10:02 PM »

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Dear Friends

Tomorrow evening, Wednesday, September 18th, I will be doing a show on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and the Catholic Church with Michael Voris on Church Militant TV. I would appreciate a few prayers in order that I may do my best for God, for His Holy Church, and for the Faithful and long-suffering Laity. Randy Engel, author, The Rite of Sodomy.

roscoe · « **Reply #1 on:** September 17, 2013, 03:28:36 PM »

Pls let us know when she apologises for the disgusting filthy trash lie she has been circulating re: Card Del Val( Sec of State to Pius X).

Nadir · « **Reply #2 on:** September 17, 2013, 08:28:25 PM »

I won't be watching it. Just letting you know..

ThomisticPhilosopher · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2013, 01:35:33 AM »

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Pls let us know when she apologises for the disgusting filthy trash lie she has been circulating re: Card Del Val( Sec of State to Pius X).

I never heard about that? Can you please PM me of what that was, or maybe correct whatever error she has done in public. Thanks, if you think it is too scandalous to repeat then I would not blame you for not repeating and giving credence to such filth.

cosmas · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2013, 11:54:16 AM »

TO ROSCOE,
I know Randy Engle personally, if she said something derogatory, she definitely researched it thoroughly. She spent over thirty years researching her book RITE OF SODOMY exposing the rot in the church, no soft pedalling or covering up on her part. She tells the truth even if it hurts. She is a very honorable holy and good woman.How much research have you done Roscoe ? She's been battling the antilife forces practically her whole adult life .What have you been doing Roscoe ?

ThomisticPhilosopher · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2013, 10:56:44 AM »

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TO ROSCOE,
I know Randy Engle personally, if she said something derogatory, she definitely researched it thoroughly. She spent over thirty years researching her book RITE OF SODOMY exposing the rot in the church, no soft pedalling or covering up on her part. She tells the truth even if it hurts. She is a very honorable holy and good woman.How much research have you done Roscoe ? She's been battling the antilife forces practically her whole adult life .What have you been doing Roscoe ?

Servant of God, Cardinal Merry Del Val is probably one of the most hardcore Thomist there is out there. He is definitely not "soft" on anything, and he is a very learned theologian as good as it can get. I would really highly suspect anything against him, unless the evidence was truly overwhelming. In 1953 the cause for canonization was opened up for him, and he was noted for his sanctity and learning something that magnifies things. Plus he has the coolest name ever old school spaniard: Rafael María José Pedro Francisco Borja Domingo Gerardo de la Santíssima Trinidad Merry del Val y Zulueta. Pretty awesome he has Basque descendency :guitar:.

He was the one commissioned with the work of Apostolicae Curae which is a masterpiece and it was thanks to this that we can say with certainty the invalidity of the New consecration Rite, for this alone he deserved to be beatified for helping out H.H. Leo XIII with the research.

This is an approved prayer to him:

Latin:
Omnipotens sempiterne Deus, qui gloriam tuam manifestas per humilitatem, et exemplum integritatis religionis, per odium modernismi
et per castigationem mortificationemque carnis servi tui Raphaelis
Merry del Val, praesta, quaesumus, si conforme voluntati tuae sit, ut
eum intercessione eius in terra glorifices per beneficium …. quod
ferventer imploramus per Cor Sacratissimum pro gloria tua et gloria
Matris Mariae doloris quam piissime diligebat. Amen.

Pater Noster. Ave Maria. Gloria Patri.

Despite the respect Randy Engel might have I think it is quite bold to talk about someone who by the standards of any man of right reason is a true Pope... Never forget the high opinion that was held of him by so many good theologians, clergyman etc... Secretary to the Holy Office and it was not only in name, but he actually did something to fight against Modernism...

Now in the name of all that is Holy could you please post what is it that she has said?

cosmas · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2013, 11:13:25 AM »

ROSCOE,
Please , Thomistic philosopher and I would like to know what Randy Engel said about MERRY DEL VALLE so we can put this to rest. You will be doing me a favor in that I will possibly see another side to Randy.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2013, 02:39:25 PM »

Mrs. Engel requests that she be contacted with any inaccuracies in her research in the Voris interview.

Nadir · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2013, 07:42:07 PM »

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Plus he has the coolest name ever old school spaniard: Rafael María José Pedro Francisco Borja Domingo Gerardo de la Santíssima Trinidad Merry del Val y Zulueta. Pretty awesome he has Basque descendency :guitar:.

Despite the respect Randy Engel might have I think it is quite bold to talk about someone who by the standards of any man of right reason is a true Pope...

Come on... The man was a Pom! and certainly not a pope.

Nadir · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2013, 07:44:00 PM »

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=12010&min=95&num=25

roscoe · « **Reply #10 on:** September 20, 2013, 09:12:24 PM »

Sorry for the slow reply. In an excerpt from her( posted on this site about 2 yrs ago) she implies that C Merry Del Val got his name from some kind of activity that she is famous( infamous) for investigating. And of course her pal J Vennari is one of the libelers of C Rampolla who consecrates C Del Val as Bishop.

I cannot recall specifically which book has the remark. :reporter:

roscoe · « **Reply #11 on:** September 20, 2013, 09:30:30 PM »

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http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=12010&min=95&num=25

Thanks for finding this. :cheers:

mobius · « **Reply #12 on:** September 20, 2013, 10:28:53 PM »

Read what Engel said about Cardinal Merry del Val

ThomisticPhilosopher · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2013, 10:53:29 PM »

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Plus he has the coolest name ever old school spaniard: Rafael María José Pedro Francisco Borja Domingo Gerardo de la Santíssima Trinidad Merry del Val y Zulueta. Pretty awesome he has Basque descendency :guitar:.

Despite the respect Randy Engel might have I think it is quite bold to talk about someone who by the standards of any man of right reason is a true Pope...

Come on... The man was a Pom! and certainly not a pope.

To be fair to myself I made mistake!

I meant to say he was declared Servant of God by Pius XII (a true Pope by any serious Catholic standards). I apologize for the misunderstanding :tinfoil:, I blame scuмbag fingers for not typing what my brain meant to say

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ThomisticPhilosopher · « **Reply #14 on:** September 20, 2013, 11:35:05 PM »

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Read what Engel said about Cardinal Merry del Val

After much thought and reading the text that (thank you), I am not sure what was the whole point of putting that on paper. I am sure she was well intentioned, but despite whatever intentions she had. It was completely wrong and there is definitely an anti-clerical sort of spirit imbibed in her writings. She readily admits that some of her sources talk in the same manner, but after reading that you come out thinking that all of these Cardinals without exception were in some sort of Machiavellian scheme to rise to power. We can only write about objective external actions nothing more or less, even sometimes without noticing we can get carried away. Which is good when someone calls you out on your stupidity, and if the criticism is true we should definitely apologize.

Now I can understand why someone would be rightly pissed that they were libeling a prince of the Church, most of all someone who was Secretary of State of our Most Beloved of all Pope St. Pius X of Happy Memory.

Now Rangy Engel is someone who has read so deeply into this topic that you almost have to become cynical and anti-clerical after reading so much filth. It certainly can disturb you to read so much garbage in the whole ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ mafia out there... Now if His Eminence had "questionable" company, it is difficult to connect the dots for as a priest he certainly wants to bring the Sheep back into the fold. Even some of the Saints have had to delve into questionable situations because of their ministering to sinners. I would certainly after reading her proof totally convinced that it should never have been published because it seems more like National Inquirer type material. Only God knows, but by moral theology standards it certainly failed the test. Now those who are nutters will be so paranoid that they will continue anathematizing previous true Popes, into the category of anti-popes because of these "questionable" princes of the Church appointed by x or y individual.

Remember the Church consist of men and not Angels, yes even a good Holy Pope can still put too much trust with someone he maybe unaware is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Take for example the canonized St. Celestine V the Hermit Pope the only true Pope to have ever resigned. He did lots of damage to the Church because of his kindness and gentleness, truly without guile. In a short period of time he almost destroyed the church because of the appointments he had made during his reign, yet he is a canonized Saint to be venerated by the entire Church... In order to be the ruler and judge of all men, you need certain qualities of which of course ideally should always be great sanctity but also knowledge of canon law etc...

Veni Jesu Domine Veni!

Salva nos Domine...