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Rabbis Recognize Vatican II Rupture...
« on: April 23, 2012, 04:32:47 PM »
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    When Pope Benedict XVI “lifted” the alleged excommunications of the four bishops of the Society of St. Pius X in 2009, a daily secular newspaper in New York State interviewed me on the topic.

    The reporter said a local rabbi told him the following: “We rabbis are concerned about a possible ‘regularization’ of the Society of St. Pius X. We fear this may bring about the Vatican’s return to the pre-Vatican II teaching that the Old Covenant is superseded by the New Covenant.”

    It appears these Rabbis understand the doctrinal issues at stake better than many traditional Catholics.

    Vatican II ushered in a new era that implies the Old Covenant is still in force and has never been superseded. A 1985 Vatican docuмent, endorsed by Pope John Paul II, propounds this new teaching.

    Thus we may ask in relation to the ongoing discussions between Rome and the SSPX: if today’s Vatican expects the Society of St. Pius X to accept the post-Conciliar “magisterium”, does the Vatican then expect the SSPX to accept the 1985 Notes that claims the Old Covenant is not superseded by the New?

    I do not say the SSPX will accept this affront to Catholic truth (they won’t). My question is: will the Vatican expect the SSPX to accept this tenet of the new “magisterium”?

    “Save Yourselves from this Perverse Generation”

    The true Catholic doctrine on this point is clear. It is found in Scripture and the perennial magisterium of the Church. Christ put an end to the Old Covenant and superseded it with the New Covenant. He did this through his Passion, Death, and the founding of his new ecclesia, the Catholic Church. This new ecclesia (Catholic Church) would come to be the Kingdom of God on earth, the people of the Divine Covenant, the new Israel, the one and only social unit established by God outside of which salvation cannot be found.[1].....



    “A Spirit of Rupture”

    Andrea Tornielli is a Vatican journalist who has recently excelled in unsubstantiated rumors about the Society of St. Pius X’s April 15 response. Though he appears to get key details wrong, it is clear he is in touch with Vatican officials either leaking confidential information, or feeding him false stories.

    Whether the following comes from Tornielli or someone in the Vatican is anyone’s guess. Tornielli quotes what turns out to be the New Code of Canon Law, implying the SSPX would be expected to ensure “a religious submission of the intellect and will to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declare concerning faith or morals when they exercise the authentic magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim it by definitive act.”[9]

    Does today’s Vatican consider the 1985 Notes, which effectively denies the truth that the Old Covenant is superseded by the New, as part of the “authentic magisterium” that requires “religious submission of the intellect and will,” even though the docuмent may not have been “proclaimed” by “definitive act”?

    This is part of the ongoing challenges the SSPX now faces in its determination to maintain the traditional doctrine of the Church. This is one of the many difficulties they consider when holding discussions with churchmen in high place whose intellects appear to be “hard-wired” in Conciliar thinking.

    As CFN readers are aware, we are bound to accept Catholic doctrine of all time “in the same meaning and in the same explanation” as the Church always taught. This truth is enshrined the writings of St. Vincent Lerins, in Vatican I and in the Oath Against Modernism. Not even a Pope can command Catholics to accept new doctrines contrary to what the Church always held.

    In closing, it is of great interest that the rabbis quoted earlier do not celebrate Vatican II as continuity but rupture. The ADL’s Abe Foxman does not see Vatican II’s (or John Paul II’s) approach to modern Judaism as continuity, but rupture.

    Archbishop Lefebvre saw the truth about the Council from the beginning. In 1964, he said the Conciliar schemas “have a spirit of rupture and ѕυιcιdє.” He went on to say, “There exists a spirit of non-Catholic or rationalist ecuмenism that has become a battering ram for unknown hands to pervert doctrine.”[10]


    http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page27/page27.html



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    Rabbis Recognize Vatican II Rupture...
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