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Offline Jr1991

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Now that’s Ratzinger is gone; Jorge feels emboldened and is ready for another crackdown. This time on the 1962 missal. 

According to the information we have, the anticipated Constitution will contain four main directives:
  • no (diocesan?) church is to be used for the exclusive celebration of the old Mass
  • in (diocesan?) churches it is not permitted to celebrate in the old rite every Sunday
  • the use of the [liturgical] books of 1962 (including the modifications decreed by Francis) is only permitted for the celebration of Mass, not however for the administration of the sacraments and sacramentals

https://novusordowatch.org/2023/01/francis-rumored-new-decree-against-latin-mass/ 

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Re: Jorge rumored to be preparing new Decree against Traditional Latin Mass
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2023, 12:11:50 AM »
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  • Maybe this new decree will be ignored by many / most bishops even as his last one was.  Cleveland bishop has totally ignored Jorge's previous directives.  After all, he does insist that he's just the "Bishop of Rome" ... in which case, what actual authority does he have over the non-Roman bishops?

    Jorge clearly has the agenda of forcing people to accept the NOM alongside of the Tridentine Mass ... and of forcing invalid Sacraments on them for some of the others (particularly Holy Orders)


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    Re: Jorge rumored to be preparing new Decree against Traditional Latin Mass
    « Reply #2 on: January 18, 2023, 11:17:53 AM »
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  • Maybe this new decree will be ignored by many / most bishops even as his last one was.  Cleveland bishop has totally ignored Jorge's previous directives.  After all, he does insist that he's just the "Bishop of Rome" ... in which case, what actual authority does he have over the non-Roman bishops?
    Lol their Synodal, EO-style confederacy of churches kind of bites them in the ass when Bergs tries to play Supreme Pontiff.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

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    Re: Jorge rumored to be preparing new Decree against Traditional Latin Mass
    « Reply #3 on: January 18, 2023, 11:45:32 AM »
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  • Now that’s Ratzinger is gone; Jorge feels emboldened and is ready for another crackdown. This time on the 1962 missal.
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    I keep hearing this idea, that Ratzinger was some sort of restraining influence on Bergoglio, and now that he is dead, Bergoglio is going to do something radical.

    Nobody has explained why this would be the case.

    Can anyone explain why or how Ratzinger would be a restraining force? What sort of influence would he exert, implicitly or explicitly, over Bergoglio? Would Bergoglio be afraid that if he pushed things too far, that Ratzinger would come out and say, "Oh, that resignation I made, I was forced to do it so it was invalid and I am really still the pope!" Or what?