Author Topic: Question for the Novus Ordoians (and everyone else, too!) (Read 728 times)

Jehanne · « **on:** June 14, 2013, 08:51:51 AM »

The Second of Council of Lyons II in 1274 stated:

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We define also that… the souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go straightaway to hell, but to undergo punishments of different kinds.

Likewise, the Council of Florence also stated:

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We define also that… the souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go straightaway to hell, but to undergo punishments of different kinds.

My question is, "How does an individual end their life in original sin alone?" Under what circuмstances, if any, would such take place?

TKGS · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2013, 09:45:28 AM »

Is your question rhetorical or did you really want an answer?

In case you were actually asking a question, unbaptized children who have not yet reached the age of reason and cannot consciously choose to obey the natural laws of God are those who "end their life in original sin alone."

Of course, the Conciliar Modernists would dispute this, but not with any authority.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #2 on:** June 14, 2013, 11:38:32 AM »

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It is by being born again of water and the Holy Ghost, that is, by sacramental
Baptism, that one becomes a child of God.

Some say "we are all children of God," but that is only true inasmuch as we
are all CAPABLE of becoming children of God. That is, we are all potentially
children of God, but do not become so until we receive holy Baptism.

Baptism is necessary to remove original sin from the soul. One cannot be
absolved in Confession until one is first baptized, because absolution does
not remit original sin; only Baptism does that.

Matto · « **Reply #3 on:** June 14, 2013, 12:44:57 PM »

Quote from: Jehanne

My question is, "How does an individual end their life in original sin alone?" Under what circuмstances, if any, would such take place?

Nearly all of those who die in original sin alone die before they reach the age of reason so they were unable to sin. A smaller number reach the age of reason but never commit a mortal sin.

Soma · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2013, 01:55:11 PM »

Include the mentally retarded in the same group as children below the age of reason.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #5 on:** June 14, 2013, 02:55:07 PM »

A person who has died in the state of original sin alone is unbaptized, but has yet to ever commit actual sin.