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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: roscoe on September 18, 2008, 04:22:56 PM

Title: Question For Sedetrad
Post by: roscoe on September 18, 2008, 04:22:56 PM

Does Sedetrad believe that Pierleone( Anacletus 2) was an anti-pope?

Title: Question For Sedetrad
Post by: roscoe on September 18, 2008, 04:29:32 PM

How about Boniface 7--was he an anti-pope?

Title: Question For Sedetrad
Post by: sedetrad on September 18, 2008, 04:56:41 PM

I really do not know much about the above two that you mentioned. I do not consider anyone after Pius XII to valid. Father Ratzinger is not even a valid bishop.

Title: Question For Sedetrad
Post by: roscoe on September 18, 2008, 05:09:14 PM

Thank you for clarification as I was confused as to your thinking until now.

Title: Question For Sedetrad
Post by: gladius_veritatis on September 20, 2008, 02:07:17 AM

How about roscoe?  Is he an anti-Pope?  Does anyone care?  Is anyone astounded at the ease with which roscoe rejects previous, universally-held-as-legitimate Popes left and right, even though there has been no cleric, theologian, etc., of even minimal merit who has held such opinions?  Go get 'em, tiger! :boxer:

Title: Question For Sedetrad
Post by: roscoe on September 20, 2008, 01:12:33 PM

'roscoe rejects universally held as legitimate Popes left and right'.

This is quite inaccurate as the only Popes I have concluded are anti-popes(besides the ones listed in Fr Radecki's book minus the Avignon Popes) are 2--Boniface 8 and Urban 6. As far as Ben XV(15?) I only suspect him as an anti-pope and could be wrong there; the subject definitely needs further research.

And Boniface hardly qualifies as 'universally held as legitimate'. Dante and many others have suspected Boniface.

Scroll down for pic of the throne of the anti-pope Boniface--this is open in your face blasphemy. This alleged pope was protecting the same v2 masonic cult that is is power today.

Bl Benedict XI and Clem V both dropped all charges against the courageous King Philip and absolved him from any suspected nefarious activity. Philip, his sons and Nogaret were all killed in retaliation for their purge of the 'pope' who was protecting v2 Templar order.

http://www.cathinfo.com/bb/index.php?a=topic&t=4268&min=0&num=15

Title: Question For Sedetrad
Post by: gladius_veritatis on September 20, 2008, 11:12:45 PM

If I misrepresented your opinions and actions, I beg your pardon.  That said, who would dare or bother to call into question even one long-deceased Pontiff who has always been accepted universally?

Title: Question For Sedetrad
Post by: roscoe on September 21, 2008, 12:21:44 PM

The reasons that Boniface is important are 1) It really is not accurate  to describe him as a universally accepted Pope. He has in reality been probably the most controversial of all Popes( an anti-pope)--remember, he was protecting corrupt Templar order . 2) In some Protestant circles it is common to describe the Catholic Church as a Babylonian Judaic operation( St Peter was really Simon Magus etc). The pic of the throne of Boniface  provides grist for the mill of rumors like that and unless properly explained and understood could be seen as collaborating that thinking.